: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:58 pm  

In our sport there is far too much enfasis on the corporate ' Dollar ' , on sponsorship and selling merchandise

Do any of those things help the atmosphere at the Shay ?

What made the hairs on your back stand up or your spine tingle when you first witnessed a big crowd watching your team ?

On boxing day 1970 my uncle for Xmas took me to Old Trafford

Up to that point I had visited Burnden park , Bolton once with my father [ I was too young to remember and my father said I was a pain in the harris that day ] and had attended matches at Hilton park wit free comp tickets with my mates

Nothing prepared me for the atmosphere that 58,000 people at OT created

I was sold on that day and became a Man Utd fan

I am a Leigh fan quite simply because it is MY town

I moved to the other side of the world but eventually returned to my home town

MY town , where MY team play

How many people life in Halifax ?

How many of those people have never seen Halifax RL team play ?

How many of those people have not seen Halifax RL team play this year ?

Getting those people down should be the primary aim for your club , once down then it is up to you to keep them coming back

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:58 am  

Yob wrote:

You are reading this wrong. It's not 'A' reliable volunteer, there are 2 that I can think of off the top of my head. What constructive work is done by these could easily be covered by a Part Time employee who is committed to doing the job right due to it being their paid employment.
We also need a Full Time Marketing/Promotions/Sponsorship/PR person who should easily bring in far more than their wage, so long as they have a proven track record.

So, you are saying that Malcoplm Powell as a volunteer at the club is not worth the time he puts in, and, a part part time person would do a better job just because they get paid.

Here's a challenge for you Mr YOB, get someone to do it better than me and I'll stand down.

Put up or shut up

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:09 am  

Malfax wrote:

So, you are saying that Malcoplm Powell as a volunteer at the club is not worth the time he puts in, and, a part part time person would do a better job just because they get paid.

Here's a challenge for you Mr YOB, get someone to do it better than me and I'll stand down.

Put up or shut up

i dont read what he is saying that way.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:12 am  

Malfax wrote:

So, you are saying that Malcoplm Powell as a volunteer at the club is not worth the time he puts in, and, a part part time person would do a better job just because they get paid.

Here's a challenge for you Mr YOB, get someone to do it better than me and I'll stand down.

Put up or shut up

For what it's worth, I think you do a brilliant job and I am disgusted at Yob's comments.

Apart from that I think it is risible that he seems to believe that an employee is more committed to the job than a volunteer. An employee, generally speaking, is more likely to do what they are paid to do and no more whereas a volunteer, particularly in this situation, brings with it a passion for the work otherwise he/she would not volunteer. They are not getting any other remuneration than a sense of satisfaction in a job well done.

I would agree, however, that at the higher end, e.g. Marketing Manager, PR, etc., if finances allow, a suitably qualified and experienced person is required but, as Yob was referring to part-time personnel, I don't believe he was referring to these sorts of positions.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:35 am  

I think without knowing the full story people should reserve judgment before having a go at yob.I'm sure if they were in his position they would feel the same.you get someone like that who comes in to the job and does a fantastic job,brings lots of fresh ideas about how things can be improved and what happens? He gets treated like poop is what happens therby probably costing the club thousands in lost sponsorship money. But it's all good because the staff that forced him out are doing a "great"job.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:41 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

I think without knowing the full story people should reserve judgment before having a go at yob.I'm sure if they were in his position they would feel the same.you get someone like that who comes in to the job and does a fantastic job,brings lots of fresh ideas about how things can be improved and what happens? He gets treated like poop is what happens therby probably costing the club thousands in lost sponsorship money. But it's all good because the staff that forced him out are doing a "great"job.

You are obviously one of the people who knows all the details. Perhaps you will be good enough to let me know who at the club forced Yob to leave?

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:47 am  

Maybe some things are better PMd if you need to get things off your chest.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:58 am  

this is laughable.

Where is the artist formerly known as bluesox4evaaa to bed some humour

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:08 am  

well, i have no idea wats gone on in the past,and dont really want to, but im one for forgeting about the past and looking to the future, which is what this whole topic was about!
some great ideas have been put on here and im sure that the club will be looking at implementing some of them to increase crowds, which is wat the club needs,
from the outside looking in... over the last 3years the club seem to have become so much more organised and professional, and that is obviously down to hard work and pulling in the same direction from people right across the club, staff, players and fans!!! lets just hope this continues and gets us back where we belong, starting on sunday!

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:38 pm  

Malfax wrote:

So, you are saying that Malcoplm Powell as a volunteer at the club is not worth the time he puts in, and, a part part time person would do a better job just because they get paid.

Here's a challenge for you Mr YOB, get someone to do it better than me and I'll stand down.

Put up or shut up

Malcolm , can I ask what roles generally you do for the club ?

Are they mostly administrative and clerical ?