Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:20 am  

Little bit of movement on companies house within the holding company, Richard Durgan showing as no longer a director as of yesterday.


Could be nothing, could even be an error. Or could be more to come from it.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:52 am  

A lot of people as well saying how tough a hand the new board have been dealt, Ive no doubt that is true, but people need to remember they asked for this it is not like is was pushed on them. They wanted that status and now it looks like they are finding the going tougher than expected, maybe this goes some way to explaining the lack of due diligence when it has come to signings, maybe there was a lack of it before they took over?

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:59 am  

So what Due Diligence do you expect them to have done on the new signings that would have foreseen some not working out. From memory us fans were happy with the majority of the signings.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:03 am  

Fans were happy with the signings, they seemed to cover all the places we thought we'd want to recruit for, and there was a good degree of optimism at the start of the season that we could kick on from where we were.

Some of, and probably most of the signings made for 2023 were probably done before the new board came in. But Grix would surely have had input over them, the new board said money was available for signings if Grix identified someone or a place which needed cover. And signings have been made since.

The board aren't to blame, it's either the players or the coach, or a mixture of both

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:13 am  

gizempo wrote:

So what Due Diligence do you expect them to have done on the new signings that would have foreseen some not working out. From memory us fans were happy with the majority of the signings.

Normal due diligence that you would do on any new signing. Lets take Gadwin Springer, you can tell from the way he plays that he could be classed as "lazy", I knew from speaking to people I know in the game that he wasn't the best trainer, we know for a fact that people at our club have a hell of a lot more contacts in the game than I do yet we got rid of Springer because he was "lazy" and not hitting the stats that Grix requires. He goes to Fev and has not really upped his performances yet over there they appreciate him for the assets that he does bring to the game.

FWIW I still think we signed pretty well at the start of the season but theres been a bit too much "face doesn't fit" type of stuff going on for it just to be a one off which suggests we are either not doing our research on new signings or maybe the coach could look to improve his man management skills or maybe it is a case of him simply expecting too much. How have we managed to make two players like Doro and King who both have bags of potential, look like complete mugs?

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:20 am  

Brew wrote:

Fans were happy with the signings, they seemed to cover all the places we thought we'd want to recruit for, and there was a good degree of optimism at the start of the season that we could kick on from where we were.

Some of, and probably most of the signings made for 2023 were probably done before the new board came in. But Grix would surely have had input over them, the new board said money was available for signings if Grix identified someone or a place which needed cover. And signings have been made since.

The board aren't to blame, it's either the players or the coach, or a mixture of both

Like you say people were told money would be available but then we go out and sign players in positions we don't need so it makes you wonder who's decision those were. I understand the AOB signing as if you get a chance to sign a player way better than anyone you have in that position firstly you sign then to improve the team and secondly you sign them so they don't go elsewhere. It always goes back to the Pickersgill signing which given what has happened since has made no sense at all and you have to wonder what the thinking was behind it.

Then despite all these signings we now find ourselves in a position where we are having to put a winger on the bench to act as a makeshift second rower while we have actual forwards sat in the stands then we wonder when we get totally out muscled by one of the biggest packs in the league as to whats going on. Its not rocket science that you don't go to Batley and have only 2 forwards on the bench(yeah I know hooker but not counting them).

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:23 am  

Let's face it, the only way we'll "do a Leigh" is to "get a Beaumont". The directors must find it extremely difficult balancing the books and recruiting decent players relying solely on attendances and sponsorship. And all it needs is a few hundred shaved off a crowd (this Sunday for example I guess we'll get 1,300-ish which will leave us a few thousand quid short) which will add to the struggle.

Even Fev don't appear to be that flush. They own their ground, but looking at their 2021 accounts there's over a million quid owed to "other creditors" and taking out the value of the ground they were more skint than us.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:24 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Normal due diligence that you would do on any new signing. Lets take Gadwin Springer, you can tell from the way he plays that he could be classed as "lazy", I knew from speaking to people I know in the game that he wasn't the best trainer, we know for a fact that people at our club have a hell of a lot more contacts in the game than I do yet we got rid of Springer because he was "lazy" and not hitting the stats that Grix requires. He goes to Fev and has not really upped his performances yet over there they appreciate him for the assets that he does bring to the game.

FWIW I still think we signed pretty well at the start of the season but theres been a bit too much "face doesn't fit" type of stuff going on for it just to be a one off which suggests we are either not doing our research on new signings or maybe the coach could look to improve his man management skills or maybe it is a case of him simply expecting too much. How have we managed to make two players like Doro and King who both have bags of potential, look like complete mugs?

100%,part of a good coach's mantle it to work with players and iron out any perceived faults/weaknesses for the benefit of everyone,not alienate at the drop of a hat.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:46 am  

King didn't want to stay here, Doro is not playing for non-rugby reasons as far as I hear, and if correct rightly so. Neither of which we would have foreseen. Have you ever recruited people that on paper seem to be right for the job but then it doesn't work out, I'll admit I have. As for Springer, my understanding was it was also down his reluctance to put the effort in or to try and improve as well - and was on a decent contract when his lower paid team mates were prepared to work harder. Fev might be better placed to carry him with their squad depth.

Re: Grix - Time to go : Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:57 am  

Hudd-Shay wrote:

Spot on. The scoreboard is an embarrassment!

Pete you don’t need a scoreboard , your side never moved at Batley.
As for your BOD , I know how hard they are trying to resolve the problems , it’s never easy , maybe Grix should walk , but I don’t blame him for staying , why lose money and put himself out of work .Have Zfaith .