Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:15 am  

the fax in asia wrote:

Who is there to step in ?, don t mention Murrell and Grix would be just the same, as for reasons stated by others,they are seasoned pros and should be able to change things on the field at the time.

What if both these players had gone to Marshall voicing concerns about recruitment but both were completely ignored? They are obviously very restricted in what they can do but both still do it on the field for us when given the chance, before we get the Murrell was anonymous brigade, Im afraid most half backs would be missing against our dominated pack, they both have the respect of all the players at the club not just a select few and both will make very good coaches.

The truth is that Marshall has had the plaudits but have we really improved in his time at the club? We have finished just about where we should do given spend and appeal to players, we are probably along with Fev the most attractive team for any part time player to play for, but fans will only stand for watching boring predictable rugby for so long. They accept it when it is winning games but as soon as that turns we have what we have now.

Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:51 am  

The Fax results come as no surprise to me, I said before a ball was kicked Fax would be fighting for 5th spot with Fev and Leigh, I stand by that.You beat a very poor Leigh team a few weeks ago,and had a decent result against Dews, but be honest,you hung on against Batley and Swinton,and have Toronto next.

We at Leigh are improving, but ,I’m honest enough to know without the Saints players we would be found lacking, the same seems to be of Fev.York are not a bad team, but nowt to write home about,and Sheff keep winning.The irony of all this is wins at Bradford and Barrow at the LSV and we could be 2nd in the League.A strange but exciting season is ahead of us all.

Leave RM where he is.

Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:34 am  

SingaporeFax wrote:

While I wasn't there today, it seems given what people are saying is that we are either lacking confidence on the field or we didn't have the right mindset to tackle York today. Either way, the discipline is alarming, I think it was 8-1 in the second half. However, I really can't empathise with the Marshall bashing. Yes, he has been found wanting tactically on occasions but to say that the youth system hasn't bore fruit is misguided. Take a look at Fev and their rent-a-squad. Last 2 games they have had 6 players playing who don't belong to them. Leigh, 5 players that don't belong to them. This isn't sustainable. We have a youth- set up that will provide a pipeline for seasons to come. It's no coincidence that the most successful teams of the last 2 decades also have the most successful youth set ups (Bradford, Wigan, Leeds).

You' best get in touch with The RFL then, as you're only allowed a maximum of 5

Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:45 am  

What makes things worse is Marshalls comments after the game were that "York took us by surprise" How the f***??? Get rid and quick.

Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:48 am  

G F B you are closer to the action than I am, and from your posts have your ear to the ground of the information trail. Just where did Fax go wrong on recruiting?, people seemed quite happy with the squad, yes a few remarked about a light pack, on the upside of that should they be more mobile?, not relying on breaking tackles and beating people up, I have nothing against intimidation of the opposition it's part of the game. Is Marshal so pigheaded he cannot see where the weak areas are, as good as Murrell has been, every dog has its day and it seems his was over a couple of years ago, although he was nominated for player of year, so he can still do it even as a roly poly.
However my point still is, if it ain't working with plan a should not the senior players have a plan b, c, or even d to revert to without calls from the sideline? Fax have a lot of experience on the field so come on guys use your nous, you can and have done it, and not just on a dry track, England does not have 8 months of summer weather.
The lack of discipline will cost Fax points every week. How many penalties given away so far this year 4 games gone have they gone passed 50 yet?

Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:53 pm  

I dont have the Stats for the Widnes Game but in the 6 Matches since we have conceded 55 Pens & have been awarded 38

Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:19 pm  

chris_smith wrote:

Waddy, QLT was apparently saying it's too cold for him currently, which was why he was dropped last week.. today was ideal for him. However watching the play slow considerably every time Murrell or White touched the ball, I doubt he would have had any impact. This Fax team is a very poor team with too many has beens or journeymen now. Jonno is not the answer either.... The issue (and I've said for several years) lies with the coach. Frankly he's woeful and should have gone years ago. Zero development of the squad, very little development or pathway via the U23s despite in excess of 250k spent on it... Marshall is a very very poor coach. Stevie Wonder can see our halves are very poor, we lack a strike centre and generally pace in the backs full stop. We also need 2 aggressive forwards (with 1 a nasty offloading prop). It's clear where we lack and everyone but our coach (loosest sense of the word) can spot it after 5 years.... What squad development has there been? Very little! It's still the majority of Harrison's squad and many of his additions have been questionable at best...

Today I saw a team that lacked heart, ideas and aggression. Very poor discipline and incapable of breaking the line with slow halves incapable of stamping any authority on the game at all. Unless changes are made quickly, this could be a very very long season where crowds dwindle considerably. For me Marshall must be shown the door and quickly cos today was embarrassing and sadly not much different from any games Fax have played in so far this year....

All spot on.

Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:54 pm  

Bentleyman thank you for the info fax have been awarded more than I imagined. However that is still a 30% negative figure. Not good for defensive play. Also where they are conceded.

Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:19 pm  

How have we got ourselves in the position of being a team clueless in attack, capable of conceding points from any part of the field, conceding penalty after penalty.
This is when Murrell is playing and when ever he leaves the field the performance level drops to junior rugby level.

I can accept losing after putting in a performance.

What I can’t accept is looking like losers after putting in a performance like that, “ again .”

Re: Fax Today at York : Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:44 pm  

I was there as a neutral yesterday.

The biggest difference in my opinion was that York ran on to the ball at pace.

Halifax on the other hand were completely static when they received the ball. They certainly need to think and act quicker.

I would be concerned at the lack of pace yesterday and how easily the York forwards especially Teanby dominated the game.

Your half backs were totally outplayed by Robinson and Cockayne yesterday.