Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:18 pm  

freddies wig wrote:

What about Huddersfield Mr Bug?

They were exempt from relegation cos they played in that stadium!

Really, why are we seen as a tinpot sport. I just don't understand

I dont disagree, but how far back do we go, and at that time just how much did Hunslet and Dewsbury actually want SL?

' Tinpot ' ? I'll not disagree on that either, although in many cases the clubs themselves dont help themselves

Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:34 pm  

So it's not just Nigel Wood that's crap then?

Bugger

Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:37 pm  

freddies wig wrote:

So it's not just Nigel Wood that's crap then?

Bugger

No, but he's the only one drawing a considerable ' Wedge ' for being so

Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:40 am  

littlerich wrote:

More clubs have gone bust under the short licensing period than any other similar period in the history of the game of Rugby League.

Littlerich says it all here. I thought the whole idea (or at least one of them) was to prevent this happening?

Further embarrassment for the sport!

Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:50 am  

Living The Dream wrote:

Just a shame RFL have wasted millions £'s over the years

They have wasted money that came from SKY TV who we are reliably informed wanted a team in London...there would be no money if SKY hadn't got their expansion team.

Living The Dream wrote:

supporting an initially Aussie dominated club whose players took the money and left,

Unless you had invented a growth drug, it was going to take 10 years + before Londoners became RL players.....given you northern jessies miss your mothers cooking too much to come south, Aussies were the only option.

Living The Dream wrote:

then propped it up when other administration orders took place,

Yet to see proof of this propping up.....London hasn't received a brass farthing over the usual SKY cash.

Living The Dream wrote:

ringfenced them from relegation,

18 seasons and London have never finished last or in a relegation position.....and we were never protected from relegation until Licencing came in.....and that was the same for all teams.

Living The Dream wrote:

to see it come to this.

.....mis-management from within and from the RFL have caused this....Melbourne Storm is how you expand into new territory.....

Living The Dream wrote:

That's two beacon clubs of the SL franchise gone down the tubes now in Bulls and Bronco's!!!!! Groundhog day!!!!!

London has never been a beacon of anything....we've flattered to deceive a couple of times and we were starting to produce Londoners.....

Living The Dream wrote:

The one thing that has been good is the junior club development in London and the RFL should ringfence that as future building blocks.

The RFL have taken control of the junior development...

Living The Dream wrote:

Demote the Broncos to bottom league and let them start again. If the professional game is strong enough in London -as the RFL would have us believe- then let them prove it!

Without a pro team to aspire to, then the development will be buggered......

Living The Dream wrote:

13 team SL next season with only one relegated then!

The RFL's cash cow weekend will not be lost..........a team will go up and be spared relegation for 1 year.....which will be challenged and therefore there will be no relegation in 2014.

Living The Dream wrote:

The World cup has been great but unfortunately its only papering over the cracks of our domestic game. I look forward to this soap opera between the RFL and SL continuing............!

Agree 100% with this.....the game is rotten from the top down and needs a major change.....let's hope IL and the rebels hold their nerve and Wood get's binned

Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:42 am  

littlerich wrote:

More clubs have gone bust under the short licensing period than any other similar period in the history of the game of Rugby League.

spot on

Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:48 am  

"Without a pro team to aspire to, then the development will be buggered....."

I don't see many of the London amateurs "aspiring" to London Broncos or they might have gone to watch them now and again.

".....let's hope IL and the rebels hold their nerve and Wood get's binned "

Wood getting binned I can live with but if he is replaced by IL and the rest of his mafiosi the game is stuffed.

Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:52 am  

It appears to me that most sports create tensions between the governing body and the clubs. Soccer, rugby union and cricket have all had major disputes in the last twelve months.

In the case of other sports the disputes centre around the allocation of the cash secured for TV rights or the release of players for international duty (which is also really about cash as player unavaialability effects club rewards). These are often referenced in the press as "Power battles"

The establishment of Super League had its origins in exactly the same debate, "how can we get most cash and who gets it".

All of these sports also have the same financial consequences, some clubs survive on generated revenues, some require financial support from individuals/groups and flurish, some require support from individuals/groups and struggle or even fail.

Rugby League has reached a stage now where the are a minimal number of clubs surviving on generated revenue and, perhaps more importantly, a declining number of individuals/groups willing to inject cash

The only solution is less teams, something I wouldn't wish to see, or clubs to reduce costs to sustainable levels with strictly enforced Finacial criteria. The RFL never did this as they didn't monitor the clubs properly. I lay the blame for this 100% at the unwillingness of The RFL to take on this problem.

I hope London survive as a club, but fans of all clubs have to recognise that to get to the top of the highest level withough independent support you need home gates averaging above 10,000. Below this and you need benefactors to match the gap or to reduce costs and consequently except a lower league position EVERY year. As with every sport league position in general (give or take a place or two) requires a bedrock of funding. Fans want their club to succeed, I want Fax and featherstone to be at the top table but at the moment the game needs to resolve its structural issues, and enforce its rules as a priority.

Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:20 am  

Howardposner wrote:

It appears to me that most sports create tensions between the governing body and the clubs. Soccer, rugby union and cricket have all had major disputes in the last twelve months.
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In the case of other sports the disputes centre around the allocation of the cash secured for TV rights or the release of players for international duty (which is also really about cash as player unavaialability effects club rewards). These are often referenced in the press as "Power battles"

The establishment of Super League had its origins in exactly the same debate, "how can we get most cash and who gets it".

All of these sports also have the same financial consequences, some clubs survive on generated revenues, some require financial support from individuals/groups and flurish, some require support from individuals/groups and struggle or even fail.

Rugby League has reached a stage now where the are a minimal number of clubs surviving on generated revenue and, perhaps more importantly, a declining number of individuals/groups willing to inject cash

The only solution is less teams, something I wouldn't wish to see, or clubs to reduce costs to sustainable levels with strictly enforced Finacial criteria. The RFL never did this as they didn't monitor the clubs properly. I lay the blame for this 100% at the unwillingness of The RFL to take on this problem.

I hope London survive as a club, but fans of all clubs have to recognise that to get to the top of the highest level withough independent support you need home gates averaging above 10,000. Below this and you need benefactors to match the gap or to reduce costs and consequently except a lower league position EVERY year. As with every sport league position in general (give or take a place or two) requires a bedrock of funding. Fans want their club to succeed, I want Fax and featherstone to be at the top table but at the moment the game needs to resolve its structural issues, and enforce its rules as a priority.

Fax I understand but why Featherstone?

Re: Broncos announce intent to go into administration : Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:48 pm  

Hudd-Shay wrote:

Fax I understand but why Featherstone?

Where have you been for the last few years?