Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:59 pm  

Looking bleak ................. http://www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=1614

Looking bleak ................. http://www.salfordstar.com/article.asp?id=1614

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:56 pm  

got half way down reading it and got bored. its the same thing over and over again from these clubs and its = a licence into super league while clubs like us are praticly told we are making our figures up and crossing our fingures.
the so called team that included all who work for the rfl should be made to answer how they came to give all these clubs their licence and made to answer what ws different in our application apart from lack of debt

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:29 pm  

A reflection of the whole sport outside the top half dozen , and some clubs and their fans have the missguided idea they could play in SL and perform better than the Salfords of this world, if you cannot grow a club when competetive and winning the bulk of your games, you sure as hell wont build one if you are going to be getting hammered on a regular basis

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:44 pm  

And that's why James Rule wrote this week about why Widnes have to be self-sustaining. O'Connor has seen a lorry load of money disappear in 2012 with attendances 2,000 down on his minimum target. Wilkinson at Salford always said that 8.000 attendances were needed to at least break even. Too many clubs are NOWHERE near that number - and neither are we by the way.

Super League is a club killer.

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:55 pm  

Starbug wrote:

A reflection of the whole sport outside the top half dozen , and some clubs and their fans have the missguided idea they could play in SL and perform better than the Salfords of this world, if you cannot grow a club when competetive and winning the bulk of your games, you sure as hell wont build one if you are going to be getting hammered on a regular basis

if thats to do with what i said then dont get me wrong i know the time still wasnt right but my point is cleary written that we were told one thing when other clubs are in a worse position and get a licence. i feel we should have an answer to whats difference in the clubs who clearly had more debt than they could handle

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:16 pm  

Just an opinion of where the sport currently is, mostly neck deep in brown smelly stuff, Although some seem to have lost the sense of smell

all IMO of course

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:22 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Just an opinion of where the sport currently is, mostly neck deep in brown smelly stuff, Although some seem to have lost the sense of smell

all IMO of course

and IMO the sports is in the stuff down to the same person who needs to give answers to the bullsh*t of an excuse not to put us in but say everyone else can have this grade and that

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:27 pm  

Starbug wrote:

A reflection of the whole sport outside the top half dozen , and some clubs and their fans have the missguided idea they could play in SL and perform better than the Salfords of this world, if you cannot grow a club when competetive and winning the bulk of your games, you sure as hell wont build one if you are going to be getting hammered on a regular basis

So your solution is we all stop watching the clubs we support and follow one of the 6 clubs who will be left ?

Or maybe all clubs outside these top 6 are doomed.

What has happened to ambition ? Just not worth bothering about is it.

Lets all pack it in and watch footie ? Not me.

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:31 pm  

lmw wrote:

and IMO the sports is in the stuff down to the same person who needs to give answers to the bullsh*t of an excuse not to put us in but say everyone else can have this grade and that

While I dont disagree that Mr Wood is hugely culpable in part for many of the sports current problems , the clubs generally are poorly run with little if any idea's on how to improve themselves

Instead they tend to be lazy and all too quick to blame anything they can to excuse their own failings

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:35 pm  

salfordlad wrote:

So your solution is we all stop watching the clubs we support and follow one of the 6 clubs who will be left ?

Or maybe all clubs outside these top 6 are doomed.

What has happened to ambition ? Just not worth bothering about is it.

Lets all pack it in and watch footie ? Not me.

Not my ' solution ' at all frank, have I suggested anybody else should not continue to support their club?

Ambition is fine frank, but without a ' plan ' to achieve it, it is poinless and more dangerous to a fan base than me