Re: Barrow at home. : Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:54 pm  

4everfax wrote:

In my opinion having watched the game on TV, I’ll say we did well in defence, conceded minimal penalties and looked fitter at this stage of the season than we have in a while, however that only goes so far to securing a win. My view was we looked a bit clueless and panicky in the attacking 20 and I honestly think we could still be playing now and still not have a try on the board.

As I said, just my opinion based on what I saw, and happy to be proved wrong

That would be about how I saw it as well. I think off season focus has been on D and it showed. Some individual flashes in attack. I would have forgiven the lads for not turning up given all the crap that has gone on but effort and commitment was 100%.

Having said that, Catalans were bloody awful. Could they not get up for this game or has Steve Mac got a problem?

Re: Barrow at home. : Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:53 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

The fact we could not even muster 500-600 paying fans through the gate for a game against a top SL team is appalling which ever way we want to look at it, its the worst draw possible without a doubt, but its not the oppositions responsibility to get people through the gate. That ground should have been rocking yesterday especially with that performance. The club needs some big changes, we look to have a pretty decent team on the field this season, so in my opinion the changes need to start upstairs.

Last season's cup game against Cats attracted 1,811 despite a poor start to the season, so shall we ask the missing thousand why they didn't attend this time round? Well, I am one of those who were missing. Why? The silly noon KO on a Saturday didn't help, especially when I didn't really get to know until fairly late due to the lack of a poster/flyer telling me when the match was taking place! But primarily it's because I refuse to pay over 20 quid to attend - I have drawn a line. So if it's the club's policy going forward not to offer the usual advance discount then this could be the first season (covid excepted - can't remember if we played in 2020?) since I first started supporting Fax in '79 that I won't attend a match.

Re: Barrow at home. : Sun Feb 09, 2025 6:04 pm  

Tony Fax wrote:

Last season's cup game against Cats attracted 1,811 despite a poor start to the season, so shall we ask the missing thousand why they didn't attend this time round? Well, I am one of those who were missing. Why? The silly noon KO on a Saturday didn't help, especially when I didn't really get to know until fairly late due to the lack of a poster/flyer telling me when the match was taking place! But primarily it's because I refuse to pay over 20 quid to attend - I have drawn a line. So if it's the club's policy going forward not to offer the usual advance discount then this could be the first season (covid excepted - can't remember if we played in 2020?) since I first started supporting Fax in '79 that I won't attend a match.

So by your own admission you didn't attend because of the price as opposed to the leaflet distribution, just out of interest what's your age demographic.

I didn't attend either for multiple reasons, batley charged ten pound admission a couple of seasons ago and that had no impact on attendance levels either , but having said that do I think that it's too expensive but I also think butter , olive oil , c tax , utility bills , rent, petrol are too expensive. I dont think cutting the cost of admission 20 % would impact attendance enough for it to be financially viable.

Re: Barrow at home. : Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:51 pm  

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Re: Barrow at home. : Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:06 pm  

That has always been the big problem, to drop admission the crowds have to go up(I think this is why Fax charged full price for the Cats game as they didn't expect a rise in attendance with cheaper tickets) and as LU mentions the Batley experiment didn't work.

Its just so hard to pinpoint one exact reason why people don't attend as it's usually a combination of things. Like a family of 3 or 4 could be paying out maybe around £150 or more for a couple of homes games in a month and that is a lot of money around here where money is tight and there are a lot of other things to do. For some it is simply frustration of how the club has been ran over the years. I couldn't even get rid of cheap tickets for this game for people who have attended regular in the last couple of years, too cold, don't want to watch their team get hammered, fed up with RL in general, these were the gist of reasons I heard.

It is hard to know what the answer is but if questions are not asked after that sort of attendance then it might be time to just sack it off.

Re: Barrow at home. : Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:19 pm  

I think it's more of an rl problem than a fax problem, I think the essence of what rl stood for as been removed by greed and removal of hope and jeopardy. I watched the Bradford v cas game today and enjoyed it has a neutral , on the flip side when I went to Wembley to watch fax vs batley I paid little attention to the leigh v hull kr game. Certain clubs seemed to have stagnated regardless, not sure on the stats but attendances seem to be at best levelling off across the board.

Re: Barrow at home. : Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:54 pm  

Greg Quote.
That has always been the big problem, to drop admission the crowds have to go up(I think this is why Fax charged full price for the Cats game as they didn't expect a rise in attendance with cheaper tickets) and as LU mentions the Batley experiment didn't work.

Its just so hard to pinpoint one exact reason why people don't attend as it's usually a combination of things. Like a family of 3 or 4 could be paying out maybe around £150 or more for a couple of homes games in a month and that is a lot of money around here where money is tight and there are a lot of other things to do. For some it is simply frustration of how the club has been ran over the years. I couldn't even get rid of cheap tickets for this game for people who have attended regular in the last couple of years, too cold, don't want to watch their team get hammered, fed up with RL in general, these were the gist of reasons I heard.

It is hard to know what the answer is but if questions are not asked after that sort of attendance then it might be time to just sack it off. End.

LU Quote: I think it's more of an rl problem than a fax problem, I think the essence of what rl stood for as been removed by greed and removal of hope and jeopardy. I watched the Bradford v cas game today and enjoyed it has a neutral , on the flip side when I went to Wembley to watch fax vs batley I paid little attention to the leigh v hull kr game. Certain clubs seemed to have stagnated regardless, not sure on the stats but attendances seem to be at best levelling off across the board. End.


BLEEDING HELL. Posts not mentioning posters and not blaming the club for everything at last making sense!!

Re: Barrow at home. : Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:17 pm  

Batleys 10 quid experiment actually worked with their crowds more than doubling, I've no idea why they didn't follow it through. I'm a mathematical genius and I calculate the optitimum entrance fee as being 12 quid which would create the greatest returns. We need to have someone with the nous to take the club forward. I would still love to know why Kenny resigned saying he did so because he didn't agree with the direction of the club. What direction didn't you agree with Kenny?

Re: Barrow at home. : Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:29 pm  

Tony Fax wrote:

Batleys 10 quid experiment actually worked with their crowds more than doubling, I've no idea why they didn't follow it through. I'm a mathematical genius and I calculate the optitimum entrance fee as being 12 quid which would create the greatest returns. We need to have someone with the nous to take the club forward. I would still love to know why Kenny resigned saying he did so because he didn't agree with the direction of the club. What direction didn't you agree with Kenny?

What year did batley do their offer, was it 2023? If so it looks like they only averaged about 100 or so more on the previous season and then crowds actually went up last year which is strange if it was 2024 that they went back to full price.

Its a bit of a catch 22 of offering cheap tickets as they often end up in the hands of people who were going to attend anyway.

Re: Barrow at home. : Mon Feb 10, 2025 6:32 am  

Halving the price of admission would require us doubling our attendance which has previously mentioned even when successful our average was 1800 , given there's only 3/4 teams that bring a healthy away following and where in the middle of a financial crisis would be suicide. As regards Lee kenny I have no idea but given he's a marketing man I only remember him arranging a convoy to wakefield which was to be polite one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.