Re: Championship & Champ 1 2025 Central Funding Amounts. : Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:18 am  

faxcar wrote:

No Tv deal means no incentive for investors, who’s going to pay for something to be advertised when no one can see it anyway?

Watching Salford v Cats on the beeb and the ground was swimming in adverts due to the presence of the cameras. Must be worth a few extra grand. I remember when SKY paid clubs when they were the ones being televised before the SL era, and IIRC the away team got a bigger share of the TV appearance because the home team could claim the whole of the extra ground advertising revenue.

Re: Championship & Champ 1 2025 Central Funding Amounts. : Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:03 am  

Tony Fax wrote:

Watching Salford v Cats on the beeb and the ground was swimming in adverts due to the presence of the cameras. Must be worth a few extra grand. I remember when SKY paid clubs when they were the ones being televised before the SL era, and IIRC the away team got a bigger share of the TV appearance because the home team could claim the whole of the extra ground advertising revenue.

This year especially has been great for SL clubs and their sponsors because every game has been shown home and away, consequently the entire viewing rugby league audience on a weekly rotating basis for those attending live with the rest watching on TV gets to see the adverts from every club multiple times on national TV.

But as mentioned before some of the Champ clubs did this to themselves by voting against it.

Compared to that the Champ and Champ 1 clubs have the same old few seeing the same things who probably never even notice what’s on display anyway after the first time of looking at it with no other coverage whatsoever.

Re: Championship & Champ 1 2025 Central Funding Amounts. : Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:26 am  

Look at advertising from the point of a local business.

If you pay to advertise at Halifax Town, they have the odd game on the telly (BT sports or whatever it is called this year) and occasionally goals in football even at that level get shown on the telly.

Pay to advertise at the rugby, you might get your local sneaking into the background of a photo in the league express, or the courier. Neither publication can have decent circulation these days.

Re: Championship & Champ 1 2025 Central Funding Amounts. : Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:15 pm  

Listenup94 wrote:

All the championship and league one clubs should meet up in the George hotel and breakaway from super league . Rename the sport and rewrite the rules to how it used to be when you could actually make a tackle without being scared of hurting someone’s earlobe ( players sign up to it knowing what there getting thereselves into whilst implementing the best modern care they can get ) promotion relegation reinstated negotiate a new tv deal . If the sport can grow organically from the bottom up rather than the top down gradually introduce regional divisions . Sport isn’t sport without hope n jeopardy.

Agree, and don't invite Toulouse and London. Have smaller squads, just have 2 subs and revert to the 5 yard defensive rule (I've always thought 10 yards is too much of a killer).

Have a relatively low salary cap meaning ALL teams would have to include at least 4 or 5 "cheap" young up and coming players.

Have several competitions running side by side giving a greater chance for silverware. When I warra lad we had the Yorkshire/Lancashire Cup, the John Player/Regal Trophy, the BBC Floodlit Cup, the Championship and the Challenge Cup. We even had the Charity Shield on the Isle of Man.

And I'd seriously go back to winter rugby. Those dark gloomy Sunday afternoons were made much better with a fill of good RL, especially the Boxing Day local derbies.

Stuff SL. They're a bask case anyway waiting to implode.

Re: Championship & Champ 1 2025 Central Funding Amounts. : Wed Sep 11, 2024 5:38 pm  

Pretty loose assessment with some things having changed from when the indicative 2024 gradings were issued in 2023 but using that table as a rough guide Fax would be around 7th on the Championship list receiving somewhere around the £120 grand mark give or take.

1. £150k
2. £145k.
3. £140k.
4. £135k.
6. £130k.
7. £125k
8. £120k
9. £110k
10. £105k.
11.£ 100k.
12. £95k.
13 £85k

With the surplus £5k to be spread across the 13.

Re: Championship & Champ 1 2025 Central Funding Amounts. : Thu Sep 12, 2024 11:55 am  

I wonder if IMG have enough data in their spreadsheets to let us know who will be promoted and relegated in 2025 yet?

Re: Championship & Champ 1 2025 Central Funding Amounts. : Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:17 pm  

Tony Fax wrote: I wonder if IMG have enough data in their spreadsheets to let us know who will be promoted and relegated in 2025 yet? Some information here as of a couple of hours ago. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/im ... next-month Or text copy and pasted without the ads. IMG Grading timetable explained as rugby league clubs prepare to find out scores next month. Aaron Bower. "The most significant six weeks rugby league has known for quite some time is now officially underway: but it will be a while yet before clubs can reveal their 2025 IMG gradings to the world. September marks the period when all clubs in Super League, Championship and League 1 begin to submit their data to IMG and the Rugby Football League. Each division has its own separate deadline; essentially, the Monday after the conclusion of their regular season. That will entail clubs submitting everything from finance to digital and community for IMG to consider – but there is still a long way to go before any club in any division is aware of their official grading. The RFL are engaging in an informal process to avoid a repeat of the situation with Castleford last season, when there was an error in their submission which wasn’t spotted until it was too late, leading to them being awarded a lower grading score than they should have. But this process, Love Rugby League has been told, is purely advisory – and no scores of any kind are being shared yet. That appears to be where the confusion over scores being revealed this week has stemmed from: but no side will know an official score yet. That is because, simply put, scores cannot be finalised while there are still rugby league games ongoing that could decide what a team ends up on. As of the time of writing, every single side except the four who missed out on the League 1 play-offs do not know where they will finish – with IMG’s performance aspect of the gradings determined by how far a club gets in the play-offs, as opposed to their actual league finish. So there are still plenty of moving parts, meaning it is essentially impossible for any club to know their official score yet. After the RFL have consulted with clubs, the data still needs to be submitted for an external audit. The RFL and IMG held a tender process this year to find a third-party quality assurance partner to help with that audit, meaning everything is completely independent. That process has not yet started. Clubs will then only be notified of their score when the final competitive match of the season – the Championship Grand Final – has taken place. It is expected that over the weekend of 19 and 20 October, they will know where they sit: but not anyone else. Two days after that, clubs are given the information of every other team’s score and where that puts them in the rankings before, the following day – Wednesday 23 October – all scores are made public. So while we are getting close to finding out exactly what clubs have scored, there is still some work to be done yet. Timetable for 2025 IMG Gradings Process Monday 2 September: Deadline for data submission for League 1 clubs Monday 23 September: Deadline for data submission for Super League clubs Monday 30 September: Deadline for data submission for Championship clubs October 1-18: Tender process with assurance partner to ratify all data and scores Weekend of 19-20 October: Clubs informed of their official score for the first time Tuesday 22 October: Clubs informed of all other clubs’ scores for the first time Wednesday 23 October: IMG gradings for 2025 made official for the first time" End. Simple really.

Tony Fax wrote: I wonder if IMG have enough data in their spreadsheets to let us know who will be promoted and relegated in 2025 yet? Some information here as of a couple of hours ago. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/im ... next-month Or text copy and pasted without the ads. IMG Grading timetable explained as rugby league clubs prepare to find out scores next month. Aaron Bower. "The most significant six weeks rugby league has known for quite some time is now officially underway: but it will be a while yet before clubs can reveal their 2025 IMG gradings to the world. September marks the period when all clubs in Super League, Championship and League 1 begin to submit their data to IMG and the Rugby Football League. Each division has its own separate deadline; essentially, the Monday after the conclusion of their regular season. That will entail clubs submitting everything from finance to digital and community for IMG to consider – but there is still a long way to go before any club in any division is aware of their official grading. The RFL are engaging in an informal process to avoid a repeat of the situation with Castleford last season, when there was an error in their submission which wasn’t spotted until it was too late, leading to them being awarded a lower grading score than they should have. But this process, Love Rugby League has been told, is purely advisory – and no scores of any kind are being shared yet. That appears to be where the confusion over scores being revealed this week has stemmed from: but no side will know an official score yet. That is because, simply put, scores cannot be finalised while there are still rugby league games ongoing that could decide what a team ends up on. As of the time of writing, every single side except the four who missed out on the League 1 play-offs do not know where they will finish – with IMG’s performance aspect of the gradings determined by how far a club gets in the play-offs, as opposed to their actual league finish. So there are still plenty of moving parts, meaning it is essentially impossible for any club to know their official score yet. After the RFL have consulted with clubs, the data still needs to be submitted for an external audit. The RFL and IMG held a tender process this year to find a third-party quality assurance partner to help with that audit, meaning everything is completely independent. That process has not yet started. Clubs will then only be notified of their score when the final competitive match of the season – the Championship Grand Final – has taken place. It is expected that over the weekend of 19 and 20 October, they will know where they sit: but not anyone else. Two days after that, clubs are given the information of every other team’s score and where that puts them in the rankings before, the following day – Wednesday 23 October – all scores are made public. So while we are getting close to finding out exactly what clubs have scored, there is still some work to be done yet. Timetable for 2025 IMG Gradings Process Monday 2 September: Deadline for data submission for League 1 clubs Monday 23 September: Deadline for data submission for Super League clubs Monday 30 September: Deadline for data submission for Championship clubs October 1-18: Tender process with assurance partner to ratify all data and scores Weekend of 19-20 October: Clubs informed of their official score for the first time Tuesday 22 October: Clubs informed of all other clubs’ scores for the first time Wednesday 23 October: IMG gradings for 2025 made official for the first time" End. Simple really.

Re: Championship & Champ 1 2025 Central Funding Amounts. : Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:03 am  

The central funding should be withheld from Hull and Huddersfield, they're a disgrace! Full time pros getting thrashed like that on their own turf, quite a shambles. Do you think Grix has lost the Hull changing room?