Re: UK Asylum seekers : Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:40 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

The easiest option would be to set up legal sites in various countries to allow those wishing to apply to do so before they get to the channel. Their applications can then be approved or rejected. This would then indicate that those coming had been rejected or not applied making it easier to return them.
The problem is that the Home office is basically not fit for purpose with current applications taking too long and we don’t have legal routes in those countries where they are most needed.
I suppose it depends on the purpose of the flights and what type of the U.K. population they are trying to appeal to.
I hope that helps you Chissitt with an alternative or is this still not acceptable to you.

Well surprisingly enough it does, surely it's far better to find a decent solution than to blame the Government who clearly haven't got a clue, but that's just me talking because I also don't have a clue, maybe if the French and the English got together and between them sorted the smugglers out it might go a long way to solving the problem who knows, personally I would say the French are more to blame than us, but that's just my opinion.

Re: UK Asylum seekers : Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:48 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Well surprisingly enough it does, surely it's far better to find a decent solution than to blame the Government who clearly haven't got a clue, but that's just me talking because I also don't have a clue, maybe if the French and the English got together and between them sorted the smugglers out it might go a long way to solving the problem who knows, personally I would say the French are more to blame than us, but that's just my opinion.

You're saying you don't have a clue but think the French are to blame.
Seems about right

Re: UK Asylum seekers : Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:20 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Well surprisingly enough it does, surely it's far better to find a decent solution than to blame the Government who clearly haven't got a clue, but that's just me talking because I also don't have a clue, maybe if the French and the English got together and between them sorted the smugglers out it might go a long way to solving the problem who knows, personally I would say the French are more to blame than us, but that's just my opinion.

The only place that many can apply for asylum is once they arrive in the U.K. because the embassy’s are not authorised to handle asylum claims. The problem then is that to get to the U.K. by plane you need a visa and to get one you need to be authorised to enter. This is therefore entirely the government’s fault because it basically does not currently have a system in place, just look at the mess they made in Afghanistan and Ukraine.
The further problem is that our Home Secretary is pretty much disliked in the majority of countries including France which she admits to no longer having any sort of contact with.
I guess those that believe the government’s stance do so because it panders to what they want to hear.

[Sadfish]

Re: UK Asylum seekers : Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:29 pm  

it is a distraction tactic from party gate and multiple other law breaches the current gov have made.

Re: UK Asylum seekers : Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:45 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

You're saying you don't have a clue but think the French are to blame.
Seems about right

Everyone's entitled to have an opinion even if they admit to not having a clue.
It's called bellendery.

Re: UK Asylum seekers : Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:31 pm  

It is clear that many of de Pfeffel’s government failed to understand that we cannot leave the ECHR because it forms part of the good Friday agreement which de Pfeffel wants to protect apparently. If we were to leave then we are in breach of the agreement with the multitude of problems that would be brought on the U.K.

[Mild Rover]

Re: UK Asylum seekers : Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:18 pm  

Sadfish wrote:

it is a distraction tactic from party gate and multiple other law breaches the current gov have made.

100%.

Its failure as an immigration policy was designed in to maximise distraction and outrage.

Same with the NI protocol stuff.

It is meant to fail and provoke anger.

Government driven only by the need to stoke resentment to hide incompetence and corruption.

Re: UK Asylum seekers : Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:53 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

You're saying you don't have a clue but think the French are to blame.
Seems about right

Nice try holy ghost but once again no cigar, what I said was that like the UK government I did not have a clue how to fix this massive problem, at least Scarlet has thought about it and put forward his plans for a solution unlike yourself and numb nuts from the hamptons who accuses me of bellendery or whatever can only put forward insults, It's harder in France to get Asylum as the process is harder and takes longer maybe that's why they try to come to the UK, it's not too difficult to realise that every boat load that leaves France is one less problem for them to deal with as they they're own problems with migrants, but that's probably too hard for you to comprehend.

Re: UK Asylum seekers : Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:56 am  

chissitt wrote:

Nice try holy ghost but once again no cigar, what I said was that like the UK government I did not have a clue how to fix this massive problem, at least Scarlet has thought about it and put forward his plans for a solution unlike yourself and numb nuts from the hamptons who accuses me of bellendery or whatever can only put forward insults, It's harder in France to get Asylum as the process is harder and takes longer maybe that's why they try to come to the UK, it's not too difficult to realise that every boat load that leaves France is one less problem for them to deal with as they they're own problems with migrants, but that's probably too hard for you to comprehend.

You appear to have missed my reply of yesterday with what we need to do.

Unfortunately as you cling to the delusion that this is some sort of national crisis it's going to be hard to have a sensible discussion.

Re: UK Asylum seekers : Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:25 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

You appear to have missed my reply of yesterday with what we need to do.

Unfortunately as you cling to the delusion that this is some sort of national crisis it's going to be hard to have a sensible discussion.

Serious problem yes, national crisis no, that's the interpretation your putting on it, you should be playing for the rhinos with a sidestep you possess
If you want a sensible discussion you need to get past your bitterness towards the Government.