[Durham Giant]

Re: P & O sackings : Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:48 pm  

Wonder if P and O have lost a lot of their freight .
Are they sending as much to the EU ?
Still at least the Irish have to send their trade through the Liverpool and Dover .

Oh hang on they send it all through Ireland straight to the EU via DFDs, Stena, Brittany, Irish ferries
That is 150,000 trucks a year that has to be a big part of P and O trade they have lostb

Re: P & O sackings : Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:25 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I wonder if de Pfeffel just panicked with his statement that the government would take P&O to court. I guess time will tell but based on form nothing will happen.

P&O and the legal teams are not stupid - they will be within the law - as disgusting as the treatment of the workers is. Johnson it is just more fluff to get through another PMQ's

Re: P & O sackings : Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:54 am  

It was good old failing Grayling who signed into law without debate that the laws applicable are those where the ships are registered which in P&O case is Cyprus. I am sure it was de Pfeffel doing his usual if cornered lie and later get a minister to say it was misinterpreted.

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Re: P & O sackings : Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:31 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote: P&O and the legal teams are not stupid - they will be within the law - as disgusting as the treatment of the workers is. Johnson it is just more fluff to get through another PMQ's https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60862933 You were saying?

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote: P&O and the legal teams are not stupid - they will be within the law - as disgusting as the treatment of the workers is. Johnson it is just more fluff to get through another PMQ's https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60862933 You were saying?

Re: P & O sackings : Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:53 pm  

I would not get too carried away let us see if the government take them to court and if they are able to make P&O reverse their decisions.

Re: P & O sackings : Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:02 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I would not get too carried away let us see if the government take them to court and if they are able to make P&O reverse their decisions.

Shouldn't that be up to a court to decide the outcome and not the government?, just asking like

Re: P & O sackings : Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:23 pm  

How can a court make a decision on this case unless the government takes P&O to court and don’t forget it is the government’s own employment laws. There are severe doubts that based on the current laws it is questionable if they have, well in the U.K. anyway.
They don’t need a court case to have P&O reverse their decision because I am sure they have enough leverage with contracts awarded and the fact that DP World are involved in the government’s Freeports. The question is do they have the will to do so.

Re: P & O sackings : Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:36 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

How can a court make a decision on this case unless the government takes P&O to court

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I would not get too carried away let us see if the government take them to court and if they are able to make P&O reverse their decisions.

They don’t need a court case to have P&O reverse their decision because I am sure they have enough leverage with contracts.

I'll leave you to reflect on your contradictions if that's okay , I'm sure YOU know what you want to say:D

Re: P & O sackings : Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:01 pm  

It’s not a contradiction because if the laws do not allow the government to take P&O to court then no decision for them to make. The alternative would be to use leverage against the company as stated but it is unlikely that de Pfeffel will want to upset the actual owners of DP World.
I hope that explains my posts but for clarity I expect them to do nothing. What do you think they will do because you are very good at trying to pick faults with others without offering any views of your own, that is if you actually have any.

Re: P & O sackings : Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:35 am  

The most telling statement today was that P&O would do it again because our government obviously holds no fear to them. I wonder if they would act the same if it was France for example.