Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue May 31, 2022 10:28 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I live in the Wakefield constituency and having received my Conservative paper it’s clear they believe that reliving the Brexit election strategy will work again. It contained the usual “securing the borders” etc and even felt the need to point out that the Labour candidate wanted to remain. I think the people of Wakefield have moved on and there are far more problems than the mess that is Brexit. It did at least have a picture of de Pfeffel but not much else about him.
I read that Mrs de Pfeffel is very much like her husband in their belief of superiority and that the law does not need to be followed. It could be said that Mrs de Pfeffel likes a party just as much as her husband especially during lockdown.
I am not sure I would want him removed because clearly he is an asset to a Labour victory but he is dangerous and the damage he could do to democracy in this country in two years is frightening.

With the Tory’s get your vote?

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue May 31, 2022 10:59 am  

wire-quin wrote:

With the Tory’s get your vote?

Could all get interesting in the next couple of weeks.
Apparently, 40 Tory MP's have now submitted their letters to Graham Brady.
54 is the magic number.

Maybe the arrogant lying PM is about to be ousted.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue May 31, 2022 1:49 pm  

Will no and with also no.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue May 31, 2022 10:28 pm  

Looks like the vote of confidence may be coming next week.
Finally, enough Tory MP's have decided to put on their "big boy" pants.

About bloody time !

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:12 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Looks like the vote of confidence may be coming next week.
Finally, enough Tory MP's have decided to put on their "big boy" pants.

About bloody time !

Well according to Nadine he has the confidence of the country well sorry I have absolutely no confidence at all in his tenure. I guess she knows that no de Pfeffel then no Nadine because let’s face facts she is like many in the current cabinet unemployable and would be back on the benches.
It looks like operation save big dog failed its first obstacle, avoiding an ego busting vote of confidence.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:24 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Well according to Nadine he has the confidence of the country well sorry I have absolutely no confidence at all in his tenure. I guess she knows that no de Pfeffel then no Nadine because let’s face facts she is like many in the current cabinet unemployable and would be back on the benches.
It looks like operation save big dog failed its first obstacle, avoiding an ego busting vote of confidence.

It was interesting listening to the possible scenarios, which could happen when a leadership contest is triggered.
Apparently, Boris is assured of 170 votes, which will make him "no 1 contender" but, it the number of votes against that will dictate whether he can cling on to power.

Usually, the standing PM will get a tap on the shoulder from the men in grey suits but, I cant see Johnson going quietly and he is likely to wriggle and scream and do everything possible to hang on to his position as leader..
There is the up coming by election in Wakefield and also one in Tiverton.
Labour has to take Wakefield back or they too are screwed but, Tiverton is currently Tory and they had a 22,000 majority at the last election but, the Lib Dems are fancying their chances here.

Poor Boris, I actually feel sorry for him now

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:28 pm  

It would appear that de Pfeffel actually thought about resigning, i bet that caused him to wake up in a cold sweat. He then realised that he was far too important to the country to resign because he still had a bucket list of institutions and laws to destroy.

[Mild Rover]

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:57 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Why do you regard Starmer as being sleazy? Why do you believe he is unelectable?

I wonder if, on the issue of electability, it is that, from a Red Wall perspective, being lied to and despised is bad but that being patronised, pitied and taken for granted is worse?

Beyond just not being Boris Johnson, Labour does to be clearer about what it is offering and to whom, if it is to have a shot a forming a government (most likely in coalition) after the next election.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:06 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

I wonder if, on the issue of electability, it is that, from a Red Wall perspective, being lied to and despised is bad but that being patronised, pitied and taken for granted is worse?

Beyond just not being Boris Johnson, Labour does to be clearer about what it is offering and to whom, if it is to have a shot a forming a government (most likely in coalition) after the next election.

The way he is performing just not being de Pfeffel looks like a vote winner.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:25 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

The way he is performing just not being de Pfeffel looks like a vote winner.

The danger is the Tories get rid of Johnson and then get to paint the new leader somehow as a fresh start. Unless it's a complete outsider they will of course all have the blood of the last 12 disastrous years on their hands - but that's not how people's minds work. Labour need to be clearer and more authentic than they have been so far.