Re: Why ? : Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:12 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

It is a genuine question that I struggle to understand why people still accept the lies and dishonesty. It sounds like you are a none voter who cares nothing for the fact that people should be interested because after all what they do affects everybody and I think the reasons I have given should worry most but maybe not you.

The reason was that Bojo was trusted more than Corbyn, which is a major worry.
Even now, if there was another election the same choice for the electorate, Bojo would win at a canter.

Those at the top of the Labour party have so much to answer for.
First, we had the wrong Miliband and then the hard left (momentum) too over and we got Corbyn and this is why people voted in such huge numbers for Bojo. Oh yeah, lets not mention Brexit, where Labour made a right royal mess of their policy - trying to back both horses in a 2 horse race.
Dont get me wrong, I cant wait to see the back of the lying, unprincipled leader that we currently have but, Labour have only themselves to blame.

Re: Why ? : Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:31 pm  

Corbyn did alright in 2017. If they'd have gone with same Brexit policy in 2019 as they did in 2017, they'd have won easily. Something like 3/4s of marginal Labour seats in2019 voted to leave, but they decided to go against their original policy and push for a 2nd vote.
. Then after losing the election because they moved closer to remain, they've elected a leader even closer to remain, but without the popular radical policies that saw them make progress in 2017.
I'm not saying I agree with some of those policies or praising the people involved, but the fact is they were popular. Now they've alienated themselves from their core vote who voted to leave, and the other Labour supporters who were attracted to their 2017 policies.
They've tried to please everyone, but have ended up pleasing nobody.

Re: Why ? : Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:07 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

It is a genuine question that I struggle to understand why people still accept the lies and dishonesty. It sounds like you are a none voter who cares nothing for the fact that people should be interested because after all what they do affects everybody and I think the reasons I have given should worry most but maybe not you.

I'm not sure how you can draw any conclusion that I am a non voter from what I have posted, my brother and I were born and brought up in Stanley as were my Mum and dad along with my grandparents, my dad has just recently retired from the police Force as where my brother is still employed in the force, I'm a self employed electrician who puts his work and young family before politics as, as far as I'm concerned they are more important to me and as being of the younger generation I don't really understand politics at all as I've stated I have neither the time or inclination for the matter and if pressed would say that I only vote Labour out of loyalty to my family if I'm honest, all my family have voted Labour all their lives, due to unforeseen circumstances I did not vote in the last election but did vote Labour in the previous 2 elections for all the good it did, I'm just as passionate about this country and it's welfare as you are, more so given that I've still got most of my life in front of me and things being difficult regarding the living I do, so you really need to stop feeling sorry for yourself you really don't have a monopoly on your concerns over the country, I've noticed that you tend to target people that don't conform with your political views well fwiw I do agree to a point but far less fanatical than yourself, if your so concerned do something about it where it matters and that's not on here really, there's nothing else to say as to carry on would result in me stooping down to your level and I wasn't brought up like that, were done here Mr Pimpernel au revoir

Re: Why ? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:02 pm  

Simple answer. The people of the UK know that Labour will be even worse

Re: Why ? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:38 pm  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

Simple answer.

From a Simple person

Talking of Simpletons, are Jacko and Chissy on Gardening Leave

Re: Why ? : Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:50 am  

Labour tried to be all things to all people and their policies and funding method weren't credible. The idea that the Tories were going to privatise the NHS was bonkers - as was their Climate change proposal - £300bn!!.

Their position on Brexit was completely stupid and Corbyn had given up with two weeks go.

Re: Why ? : Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:15 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Labour tried to be all things to all people and their policies and funding method weren't credible. The idea that the Tories were going to privatise the NHS was bonkers - as was their Climate change proposal - £300bn!!.

Their position on Brexit was completely stupid and Corbyn had given up with two weeks go.

Not forgetting the 4 day week!

Re: Why ? : Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:39 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Not forgetting the 4 day week!

Wiping out student debt and making university courses free

Re: Why ? : Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:41 pm  

Superblue wrote:

From a Simple person

Talking of Simpletons, are Jacko and Chissy on Gardening Leave

Where do you get your material from ,top bantz

Re: Why ? : Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:09 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Not forgetting the 4 day week!

Why is it most right-wingers would have us working all hours god sends?

My wife works 4 day weeks. It's such a good idea. She does the hours of a 5 day week in 4 days and has an extra day off a week.