Re: Liar, Liar ! : Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:20 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Probably to do with the fact that he purged his party of anyone who dared to disagree with him and with it, many of the more "reasonable" Tories and we are now left with a buffoon doing as he pleases but, not actually delivering too much.
It's just lie after lie, false promise after false promise, much as we heard during the Brexit campaign and the hypocrisy over the Nurses and NHS staff, to whom he owes his life, is nothing short of disgraceful.

Of the ones he purged - Hammond was a poor chancellor, Grieve nasty piece of work, Gaulke - hardly a star, Hunt in hindsight hadn't prepared the NHS for a crisis etc. Not sure what you would expect him to do when all of these deliberately tried to undermine the Brexit process - in the commercial world they would have gone very quickly.

Re: Liar, Liar ! : Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:42 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

The problem is he has filled his cabinet with many who are also strangers to the truth. We have in the last 24 hours had Gove and Patel both found to have misled but as per usual will not admit it. The problem for the latter is she is up against Cooper who will not let it drop.

It's no coincidence that under Bojo, his cabinet follow the same narrative.
The lack of a fully functioning HoP doesn't help but, when the PM can spot crap and tell lies, on a daily basis, without consequence, it's no wonder that everyone else follows.
During the GE campaign there was the downright dishonesty of the 50,000 new nurses, something which, this week Bojo claimed they were "on track" to achieve.
Also, it would appear that many of the media outlets seem frightened to call him out.
Maybe uncertainty over TV licensee funding is playing a part in this ?

Re: Liar, Liar ! : Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:49 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

It's no coincidence that under Bojo, his cabinet follow the same narrative.
The lack of a fully functioning HoP doesn't help but, when the PM can spot crap and tell lies, on a daily basis, without consequence, it's no wonder that everyone else follows.
During the GE campaign there was the downright dishonesty of the 50,000 new nurses, something which, this week Bojo claimed they were "on track" to achieve.
Also, it would appear that many of the media outlets seem frightened to call him out.
Maybe uncertainty over TV licensee funding is playing a part in this ?

When do you ever see him in the media or on TV - he never allows himself to exposed to rigor of questions - could you imagine Andrew Neil giving him a grilling?

On the nurses anyone in a commercial world will tell you retention is key constituent to growth if say there were 100,000 nurses but natural is 20k then if the new number is 130,000 nurses then you have added 50,000 nurses. Is that not what they said?

Re: Liar, Liar ! : Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:46 am  

I am sorry but new nurses can never include those already employed. If we used the same principle then should we not deduct those that have left from those retained. What was his promise on hospitals I guess this also included those in existence.

Re: Liar, Liar ! : Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:10 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

On the nurses anyone in a commercial world will tell you retention is key constituent to growth if say there were 100,000 nurses but natural is 20k then if the new number is 130,000 nurses then you have added 50,000 nurses. Is that not what they said?

That was just the line used when their lies were so easily exposed.
A "retained" member of staff can never be described as "new" and to accept that kind of logic is just plain ridiculous.

You really have been taken in (again).

Lies, damn lies and statistics

Re: Liar, Liar ! : Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:49 pm  

I understand that nurses who've returned temporarily from retirement to help in the present crisis are being counted as new starters.

Re: Liar, Liar ! : Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:22 pm  

A Labour supporter starting a thread about lying.

Nice one, how are those weapons of mass destruction doing in Iraq? Have they been found yet? LMAO

Re: Liar, Liar ! : Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:30 pm  

Oh and by the way. 179 uk soldiers died because of labours lies and between 150k and 1m Iraqis.

This is why Labour will never win another election. What’s the current tally? 10 points behind? LMAO embarassing

Re: Liar, Liar ! : Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:49 pm  

Steph Curry wrote:

Oh and by the way. 179 uk soldiers died because of labours lies and between 150k and 1m Iraqis.

This is why Labour will never win another election. What’s the current tally? 10 points behind? LMAO embarassing

FFS hpw many people have died due to Bojo's incompetence

Re: Liar, Liar ! : Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:40 am  

Steph Curry wrote:

A Labour supporter starting a thread about lying.

Nice one, how are those weapons of mass destruction doing in Iraq? Have they been found yet? LMAO

The difference is that we knew Johnson was sponsored by Russians and that he was a buffoon and a liar BEFORE he was elected by 43% of the electorate.
Fortunately that does mean a majority of the electorate still have standards & principles and are not easily fooled by Murdoch et al.