[Mild Rover]

Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 14, 2021 12:59 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Get us Healthy

That’s not bad. I fear the libertarian right would read it as a bit preachy and nanny state-ish, but there’s something there.

How about ‘A Healthy Britain’, with implications about the wider malaise and a dash of Unionism? Extra beat again, unfortunately.

This is much more fun than a meaningful exchange of ideas! Yay for slogans and politics as a reality gameshow!

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 15, 2021 12:04 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

That’s not bad. I fear the libertarian right would read it as a bit preachy and nanny state-ish, but there’s something there.

How about ‘A Healthy Britain’, with implications about the wider malaise and a dash of Unionism? Extra beat again, unfortunately.

This is much more fun than a meaningful exchange of ideas! Yay for slogans and politics as a reality gameshow!

For the many ,not the few
That worked well

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 15, 2021 12:09 pm  

On a serious note though ,Starmer and a Raynor have both said that Labour need to connect with the working man but can they with momentum lurking in the background

[Mild Rover]

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 15, 2021 1:04 pm  

JONNYGIANT wrote:

For the many ,not the few
That worked well

Arguably it did because that was 2017. While we now know that six words is massively excessive, it did show that a 3-word, 4-beat slogan (strong and stable, in that case), can falter if delivered by somebody too thoughtful. For the many (full stop) is maybe worth revisiting at some point.

Labour had ‘It’s time for real change’ in 2019. Down to just 5 words (with the contraction) but so memorable I had to look it up.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 15, 2021 5:13 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Arguably it did because that was 2017. While we now know that six words is massively excessive, it did show that a 3-word, 4-beat slogan (strong and stable, in that case), can falter if delivered by somebody too thoughtful. For the many (full stop) is maybe worth revisiting at some point.

Labour had ‘It’s time for real change’ in 2019. Down to just 5 words (with the contraction) but so memorable I had to look it up.

I think in 2017 though Labour promised to respect the referendum result and put it out there that they would scrap student debt if elected, in 2019 they didn't

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 16, 2021 8:48 am  

Both parties want a levelling of wealth but their methodology is quite different. Labour want to level down, the Tories want to level up. These are not difficult concepts to grasp.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 16, 2021 10:29 am  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Both parties want a levelling of wealth but their methodology is quite different. Labour want to level down, the Tories want to level up. These are not difficult concepts to grasp.

Nor was the geocentric model.

Right, that doesn’t really justify a mic drop - but I need another break from this. See y’all in a week or so good buddies.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 16, 2021 11:57 am  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Both parties want a levelling of wealth but their methodology is quite different. Labour want to level down, the Tories want to level up. These are not difficult concepts to grasp.

Look - over there! A straw man!

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 16, 2021 12:46 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Look - over there! A straw man!

Look over here - a human incapable of thinking for himself!!

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 16, 2021 3:58 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Look over here - a human incapable of thinking for himself!!

If your "thinking for yourself" takes you as far as simplistically saying, "Labour want to level down" then I'm cool with being anything you're not.