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Re: Kier Starmer : Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:28 am  
How does one get some of this famed champagne? If a lad from a working class background like Starmer is swimming in the stuff it sounds like it's a free for all.
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Re: Kier Starmer : Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:19 am  
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How does one get some of this famed champagne? If a lad from a working class background like Starmer is swimming in the stuff it sounds like it's a free for all.

That's probably why he's swimming in it cos it's free and he shows his face in the right places.
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Re: Kier Starmer : Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:41 am  
You mean like visiting those families with relatives lost to Covid which Johnson constantly promises to do but so far has failed to do so.
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Re: Kier Starmer : Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:28 pm  
Starmer has had enough ammunition gift boxed to him by the Tories over the last 18 months.

He has failed to do anything proper, except given the Tories more popularity.
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Re: Kier Starmer : Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:48 pm  
The Ghost of '99 wrote:
How does one get some of this famed champagne? If a lad from a working class background like Starmer is swimming in the stuff it sounds like it's a free for all.

Aldi do a nice one
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Re: Kier Starmer : Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:39 pm  
Now that the tories lead is even greater how do Labour come back from this?
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Re: Kier Starmer : Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:36 am  
Poky wrote:
Now that the tories lead is even greater how do Labour come back from this?


From a narrow Labour perspective the key elements are probably getting some more recognisable figures off select committees and on the front bench as the election approaches, and hoping that the joke of Johnson wears thin too late for the Tories to switch.

From a broader hope for the nation’s future POV, then maybe we (the very loose anti-Johnsonian alliance) have to accept there is no single solution that will suit us all, whatever our political priorities are. There has always been dishonesty and incompetence and nastiness in government - but it was at least seen as something to decry and resist. Allowing Johnsonian government, intentionally or not, means giving up on this country, imo. It is that serious. So all intelligent people of good political conscience need to think about what can be done to remove him before they focus on anything else. None of the things that decent people want, from across the political spectrum (market capitalists, social democrats, environmentalists, Celtic nationalists or unionists, fiscal and/or traditional one-nation Conservatives, egalitarians, liberals… anybody) can happen until he is gone.
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Re: Kier Starmer : Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:22 pm  
There you go, he’s at the challenge cup final, proper northern man of the people
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Re: Kier Starmer : Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:29 pm  
I wonder who would be the first and it was you. What you should be asking why isn’t Boris there because he loves the north apparently.
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Re: Kier Starmer : Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:15 pm  
I wonder who would be the first to defend him on here and it was you :lol: Boris will be too busy putting the needs of the country first than free loading like your mate, I notice the beeb only showed him the once, probably not too photogenic, tbf he's not got a lot to smile about.
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