Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:08 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

If you can do the time, and all that...

Sadly you've missed the point. But then lefties do that when they don't like the truth.

What about those that died due to their personal information being accessed at the medical facilities by the Nazis etc. Is that 'if you can do the time' too?

[Durham Giant]

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:06 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Protection of private details/information is paramount to underpinning a democratic society. You just need to look at the second world war and the Balkan conflict to see the outcomes of private details being accessed and the subsequent deaths that followed. ie the driver behind the GDPR Regulations.

As a nasty left winger you may find this satisfying but sadly the larger implications are dreadful. Again you've shown your true colours.

]Parler was a Site that let fascists , white nationalists, racists , conspiracy theorists . Right wing militias organise and spread hate and disinformation and violence. I know that you sympathise with their views. Fair enough.


But you are a complete hypocrite. You talk about rights when. It suits you.
If this had happened to antifa you would have been saying exactly the same . You would have been pushing law and order and saying if they have done nothing wrong they have nothing to fear You are a pseudo democrat who supports democracy when it suits and would discard it in a minute when it suits.
I care not one jot about them and they get whatever they deserve. You accuse the left of the crimes committed by those whom you sympathise with. The far right.

Just like Goebbels said about his enemies , “ accuse them of what you are guilty of”.

I have always been clear about my true colours when it comes to fascists and have Said it many times before.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:59 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

]Parler was a Site that let fascists , white nationalists, racists , conspiracy theorists . Right wing militias organise and spread hate and disinformation and violence. I know that you sympathise with their views. Fair enough.


But you are a complete hypocrite. You talk about rights when. It suits you.
If this had happened to antifa you would have been saying exactly the same . You would have been pushing law and order and saying if they have done nothing wrong they have nothing to fear You are a pseudo democrat who supports democracy when it suits and would discard it in a minute when it suits.
I care not one jot about them and they get whatever they deserve. You accuse the left of the crimes committed by those whom you sympathise with. The far right.

Just like Goebbels said about his enemies , “ accuse them of what you are guilty of”.

I have always been clear about my true colours when it comes to fascists and have Said it many times before.

So only right wing propaganda - far more harm caused by left leaning view points than ever was done under the flag of right wing politics. Mao killed 40 million, Stalin at least 20m, Lenin 14m, Pol Pot 1m - the list is long and deep.

Your myopia is duly noted

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:16 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

So only right wing propaganda - far more harm caused by left leaning view points than ever was done under the flag of right wing politics. Mao killed 40 million, Stalin at least 20m, Lenin 14m, Pol Pot 1m - the list is long and deep.

Your myopia is duly noted

Shall we put Hitler in there FFS

Trump is an idiot leader, far too concerned with peddling his own version of right wing politics, to the ABSOLUTE detriment of the population as a whole. The racial divide, right now, is growing quickly.
ANY good leader should be bringing their people together, healing the differences and plotting a brighter future.

Trump has done NONE of those things.

Typical right wing politics of looking after just a favoured few and to hell with the rest.

Btw, you still havent come up with ANY tangible benefits of Brexit, should we take it that you dont know of any

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:45 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Shall we put Hitler in there FFS

Trump is an idiot leader, far too concerned with peddling his own version of right wing politics, to the ABSOLUTE detriment of the population as a whole. The racial divide, right now, is growing quickly.
ANY good leader should be bringing their people together, healing the differences and plotting a brighter future.

Trump has done NONE of those things.

Typical right wing politics of looking after just a favoured few and to hell with the rest.

Btw, you still havent come up with ANY tangible benefits of Brexit, should we take it that you dont know of any

Hitler killed < than a third of what Mao exterminated to put it into context.

I haven't yet experienced any negatives - as I said plenty of food and no price increases - imported some wine last week without any issues - so I cannot honestly see any changes and I think if asked 99% of the UK population they would say the same.

Keep trying to find miniscule negatives

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:49 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Shall we put Hitler in there FFS

Trump is an idiot leader, far too concerned with peddling his own version of right wing politics, to the ABSOLUTE detriment of the population as a whole. The racial divide, right now, is growing quickly.
ANY good leader should be bringing their people together, healing the differences and plotting a brighter future.

Trump has done NONE of those things.

Typical right wing politics of looking after just a favoured few and to hell with the rest.

Btw, you still havent come up with ANY tangible benefits of Brexit, should we take it that you dont know of any

Trump was only interested in the economy and he was doing an OK job until COVID - he would have walked the election with no COVID - he was never interested in culture and harmony.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:55 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Trump was only interested in the economy and he was doing an OK job until COVID - he would have walked the election with no COVID - he was never interested in culture and harmony.

Trump was never going to "walk" an election, that's a preposterous remark from someone with seemingly zero knowledge of American politics.

The country fundamentally skews Democratic, only one Republican has won a majority of voters in three decades. Trump without pandemic may have won a close election but saying he would coast it is ridiculous, as is this bizarre listing of authoritarian dictators and somehow comparing them to the terminally centrist Democratic party.

[Durham Giant]

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:01 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

So only right wing propaganda - far more harm caused by left leaning view points than ever was done under the flag of right wing politics. Mao killed 40 million, Stalin at least 20m, Lenin 14m, Pol Pot 1m - the list is long and deep.

Your myopia is duly noted

I will raise you British Imperialism
29 million in famines in India alone,
1 million in Ireland.
20,000 in boer concentration camps
Wiping out of Tasmanian aborigines ( the only successful extermination in modern history)


Slavery promoted by Britain.
1 million in the African /Atlantic slave trade

Wars promoted by Britain in pursuit of empire
Millions

Capitalism
Untold millions / billions directly and indirectly and still continuing

Britain supporting sanctions on Iraq ( particularly Tony Blair)
500,000 minimum

Never mind wars of religion
195,000,000 is a reasoned estimate crusades, wars between catholics and Protestants,inquisition etc


Colonisation of America’s

10 million mainly Spanish and English responsible


Hitler pol pot and Stalin were small fry compared to the above


Mind you only the ones who killed in England’s names get statues and buildings named after them

.

[Durham Giant]

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Trump was only interested in the economy and he was doing an OK job until COVID - he would have walked the election with no COVID - he was never interested in culture and harmony.

He was 100% interested in culture and disharmony because that is what convinced his power base to vote for him Fear ! racism narrow interests.

Illegal Mexicans, South American’s stealing their jobs, black criminals.
Anyone who opposed him was a communist.

He 100% used culture to convince people to support him .

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:14 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

]Parler was a Site that let fascists , white nationalists, racists , conspiracy theorists . Right wing militias organise and spread hate and disinformation and violence. I know that you sympathise with their views. Fair enough.


But you are a complete hypocrite. You talk about rights when. It suits you.
If this had happened to antifa you would have been saying exactly the same . You would have been pushing law and order and saying if they have done nothing wrong they have nothing to fear You are a pseudo democrat who supports democracy when it suits and would discard it in a minute when it suits.
I care not one jot about them and they get whatever they deserve. You accuse the left of the crimes committed by those whom you sympathise with. The far right.

Just like Goebbels said about his enemies , “ accuse them of what you are guilty of”.

I have always been clear about my true colours when it comes to fascists and have Said it many times before.

Deal with crime but not at the expense of privacy which is what you seemed pleased about.(and still no retraction of your smarmy comment)