Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:01 am  

wire-quin wrote:

I suspect if it wasn't for COVID damaging the economy and job market in the US it would be Trump being inaugurated next week.

Leaders who have dealt with the pandemic well have seen bounces in their approval ratings. Trump's fundamental weakness as a leader meant he saw the opposite happen.
Being bad at your job tends to have consequences.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:42 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Leaders who have dealt with the pandemic well have seen bounces in their approval ratings. Trump's fundamental weakness as a leader meant he saw the opposite happen.
Being bad at your job tends to have consequences.

Maybe you could provide some examples? Don't thrown minor countries like Aus and NZ at us, let's go for the more influential economies in the world.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:29 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Leaders who have dealt with the pandemic well have seen bounces in their approval ratings. Trump's fundamental weakness as a leader meant he saw the opposite happen.
Being bad at your job tends to have consequences.

I agree with you and Trump basically said to each state - you are on your own no crap sticks on me. He closed the borders, which had zero impact and then basically gave up.

I don't think you can compare the likes if NZ and Aus - these are low density countries with very limited movement of people when compared to the larger European countries same goes for the SE Asian countries.

What we need to understand is why our death rate is so high - still.

[Durham Giant]

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:46 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

Maybe you could provide some examples? Don't thrown minor countries like Aus and NZ at us, let's go for the more influential economies in the world.

Deaths per million of population.

I have linked only to larger economies

Uk. 1263

Germany. 542

Canada. 462

Japan 34 ( and that ina country full of old people!)

Denmark 286

Malaysia 18

South Korea 24

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:46 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

Deaths per million of population.

I have linked only to larger economies

Uk. 1263

Germany. 542

Canada. 462

Japan 34 ( and that ina country full of old people!)

Denmark 286

Malaysia 18

South Korea 24

What is the population density in these countries i.e. population per sqKm

UK 278/sqkm
Canada 4/sqkm

Still I'm not sure what else we could have done other than be in permanent lockdown for a year - our cases are too high for track and trace - 50k a day say each person has 5 contacts that 250k a day in isolation!!

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:35 am  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

What is the population density in these countries i.e. population per sqKm

UK 278/sqkm
Canada 4/sqkm

Still I'm not sure what else we could have done other than be in permanent lockdown for a year - our cases are too high for track and trace - 50k a day say each person has 5 contacts that 250k a day in isolation!!

Of course population density over a whole country is utterly irrelevant, as you well know.
Canadians don't live equally spaced out across their vast country, that's a lame talking point even for a government apologist.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:48 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Of course population density over a whole country is utterly irrelevant, as you well know.
Canadians don't live equally spaced out across their vast country, that's a lame talking point even for a government apologist.

I would have thought it would have a impact if the virus is spread person to person isn't that the whole point of lockdown. Density will matter surely?

I am not an apologist for the Government - I think their handling could have been a lot better - not sure how many deaths it would have prevented but the messaging has been appalling.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:24 am  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

I would have thought it would have a impact if the virus is spread person to person isn't that the whole point of lockdown. Density will matter surely?

Canadian cities are as densely populated as British cities. And the vast majority of Canadians - 80%+ live in those big cities.

They have a great, vast country. But nobody is living in most of it. Population density over an entire country is irrelevant.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:46 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Canadian cities are as densely populated as British cities. And the vast majority of Canadians - 80%+ live in those big cities.

They have a great, vast country. But nobody is living in most of it. Population density over an entire country is irrelevant.

It's a usefull straw to grasp at if you are trying to justify voting tory though.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:49 am  

Ovavoo wrote:

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It's a usefull straw to grasp at if you are trying to justify voting tory though.

Boooom
Something these lot are getting increasingly adapt at doing