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Re: Brexit watch Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:06 am  

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Take a baby from the slums and provide it with a privileged upbringing and your problems are solved. It's not the individuals that are at fault, it's down to the system and the hand that you're dealt.


Indeed - or even better, don't have any slums to begin with?
Re: Brexit watch Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:55 pm  

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This is How a Society Dies...

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That's an interesting read. However, I'd be happier if it had provided a solution rather than just comfirming that we're in a death spiral.
Re: Brexit watch Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:26 pm  

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Without immigration every aspect of life in London would be effected, every care home, the entire leisure sector not to mention vegetable picking.
I would say good luck getting our own to do these type of jobs. With the proposed immigration system then these workers would not be eligible so who does the work.


What a load of rubbish - supply and demand suggests wages have to rise - anyone who has a business knows if you want to recruit you have to pay a rate that people are prepared to work for. Long term employees give a false cost of employment - you try and replace them at their rate - impossible. So you have a hotel you can't get the staff at the money you want what happens - you either do without which you can't or you pay and pass it on - same goes for fruit picking etc. The biggest problem in the UK is we don't value investing in our people - we seem scared that we invest and then they leave - perhaps we need to understand the value the add whilst they are getting trained and understand how we create a challenging environment that encourages them to stay. Much easier to bring in the finished product whether its a doctor or a sportsman.
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Re: Brexit watch Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:44 pm  

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Sal Paradise wrote:
What a load of rubbish - supply and demand suggests wages have to rise - anyone who has a business knows if you want to recruit you have to pay a rate that people are prepared to work for. Long term employees give a false cost of employment - you try and replace them at their rate - impossible. So you have a hotel you can't get the staff at the money you want what happens - you either do without which you can't or you pay and pass it on - same goes for fruit picking etc. The biggest problem in the UK is we don't value investing in our people - we seem scared that we invest and then they leave - perhaps we need to understand the value the add whilst they are getting trained and understand how we create a challenging environment that encourages them to stay. Much easier to bring in the finished product whether its a doctor or a sportsman.


Give over, everyone knows that after the person has left the slack is picked up by those that remain. :D
Usually under threat of their own jobs, perhaps sweetened slightly with a couple of extra hours overtime.
Re: Brexit watch Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:02 pm  

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Sal Paradise wrote:
What a load of rubbish - supply and demand suggests wages have to rise - anyone who has a business knows if you want to recruit you have to pay a rate that people are prepared to work for. Long term employees give a false cost of employment - you try and replace them at their rate - impossible. So you have a hotel you can't get the staff at the money you want what happens - you either do without which you can't or you pay and pass it on - same goes for fruit picking etc. The biggest problem in the UK is we don't value investing in our people - we seem scared that we invest and then they leave - perhaps we need to understand the value the add whilst they are getting trained and understand how we create a challenging environment that encourages them to stay. Much easier to bring in the finished product whether its a doctor or a sportsman.


Actually. What you wrote is a load of rubbish. You are so far out of touch it’s laughable.
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Re: Brexit watch Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:59 am  

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Give over, everyone knows that after the person has left the slack is picked up by those that remain. :D
Usually under threat of their own jobs, perhaps sweetened slightly with a couple of extra hours overtime.


If that were the case how come we have less unemployed - surely under your scenario we would unemployment rise?
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Re: Brexit watch Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:00 am  

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Actually. What you wrote is a load of rubbish. You are so far out of touch it’s laughable.


Of course - as a business owner and employer I would say I am a bit closer to the action than you - so come on then what in what I have written is not factually correct?
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Re: Brexit watch Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:05 am  

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Sal Paradise wrote:
If that were the case how come we have less unemployed - surely under your scenario we would unemployment rise?


As you well know, we have low unemployment because the Government cooks the figures to create a positive outturn; as recently as October last year, the OECD said that official unemployment figures should be around 3 times higher than Gov't figures suggest.
Re: Brexit watch Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:38 am  

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New fact

The European chemical agency which runs

REACH. The chemical standards agency has stopped employing ayUK reps.

Braitain still has to follow it’s rules but has no say.

Power to the people
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Re: Brexit watch Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:30 pm  

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Sal Paradise wrote:
What a load of rubbish - supply and demand suggests wages have to rise - anyone who has a business knows if you want to recruit you have to pay a rate that people are prepared to work for. Long term employees give a false cost of employment - you try and replace them at their rate - impossible. So you have a hotel you can't get the staff at the money you want what happens - you either do without which you can't or you pay and pass it on - same goes for fruit picking etc. The biggest problem in the UK is we don't value investing in our people - we seem scared that we invest and then they leave - perhaps we need to understand the value the add whilst they are getting trained and understand how we create a challenging environment that encourages them to stay. Much easier to bring in the finished product whether its a doctor or a sportsman.


Utter rubbish,
Where I work, they have been taking on new employees at just over half the pay that us long servers are earning. For doing the same job.

Companies will try to get the job done for the cheapest cost possible.
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