[Durham Giant]

The Queen says NO !!!! : Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:17 pm  

It seems that the queen and charlie boy regularly use their power of veto to change bills introduced in parliament. Those that think the monarch's role is ceremonial need to think again. Unbelievable that she vetoed a bill which gave parliament rather than her the power to go to war. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/1 ... veto-bills

It seems that the queen and charlie boy regularly use their power of veto to change bills introduced in parliament. Those that think the monarch's role is ceremonial need to think again. Unbelievable that she vetoed a bill which gave parliament rather than her the power to go to war. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/1 ... veto-bills

Re: The Queen says NO !!!! : Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:32 pm  

Is there a story in there somewhere?

Re: The Queen says NO !!!! : Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:42 pm  

I don't understand why politicians accept such meddling from the royal family. If its true that Prince Charles has vetoed over a dozen laws that is absolutely ludicrous - why isn't this more widely publicised?

If I were the Prime Minister and Charles was interfering with laws I was trying to pass, I'd tell him to love off, and that if he tried to veto anything else I'd have the constitution changed, removing all power from him and his family of inbred half-wits.

Re: The Queen says NO !!!! : Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:58 pm  

All very funny for knee-jerk anti-monarchists, but as in reality we are told in the article itself that on no occasion has a veto been used "unless advised to do so by ministers" there seems to be no story here.

Re: The Queen says NO !!!! : Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:03 am  

Strange the story should come out now, HM has been a brake on excesses by a few governments, many of them blue.

Re: The Queen says NO !!!! : Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:41 pm  

Durham Giant wrote: It seems that the queen and charlie boy regularly use their power of veto to change bills introduced in parliament. Those that think the monarch's role is ceremonial need to think again. Unbelievable that she vetoed a bill which gave parliament rather than her the power to go to war. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/1 ... veto-bills Off with their heads. Hasn't the BBC also refused to divulge e mails from Charlie, in which he allegedly attempted to exert influence? The sooner we become a republic, the better.

Durham Giant wrote: It seems that the queen and charlie boy regularly use their power of veto to change bills introduced in parliament. Those that think the monarch's role is ceremonial need to think again. Unbelievable that she vetoed a bill which gave parliament rather than her the power to go to war. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/1 ... veto-bills Off with their heads. Hasn't the BBC also refused to divulge e mails from Charlie, in which he allegedly attempted to exert influence? The sooner we become a republic, the better.

Re: The Queen says NO !!!! : Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:19 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

All very funny for knee-jerk anti-monarchists, but as in reality we are told in the article itself that on no occasion has a veto been used "unless advised to do so by ministers" there seems to be no story here.

Ah, right, so the fact that a power is seldom used is a reason for its perpetuation?
Besides, the fact that Charles is regularly sticking his oar in ... and affecting statute in the process ... is utterly undemocratic.

We are constantly fed the lies that the monarchy is largely ceremonial when, in actuality, it serves to maintain the establishment via the Order of the garter, the House of Lords, the honours system and the distribution of awards of grace and favour.

Nothing knee- jerk about it, the self-interested forelock-tuggers stand between the populace and decent democracy.

Re: The Queen says NO !!!! : Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:13 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Nothing knee- jerk about it, the self-interested forelock-tuggers stand between the populace and decent democracy.

you are familiar with the House of Lords???

whatever gave you the idea we lived in a democracy?

Re: The Queen says NO !!!! : Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:49 pm  

Standee wrote:

you are familiar with the House of Lords???

whatever gave you the idea we lived in a democracy?

Your ability to miss the point is really quite astonishing.
Did you not see that, in the very post to which you replied, I listed the House of Lords as one of the things that impedes democracy?
Even the bit you quoted speaks of what stands between the populace and decent democracy.

Re: The Queen says NO !!!! : Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:55 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Your ability to miss the point is really quite astonishing.
Did you not see that, in the very post to which you replied, I listed the House of Lords as one of the things that impedes democracy?
Even the bit you quoted speaks of what stands between the populace and decent democracy.

There are quite a lot of things which impede our democracy, the house of lords, the voting system we use, even the type of democracy we have, our parliamentary system is in someways undemocratic.

Liz having a power she doesn’t use, and if she did merry hell would be made of it, is fairly low down the list.