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Re: Education, education, education and war : Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:05 pm  
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So if he nominated her,why would the Labour MP ask him to block the nomination

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... s-53662234
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So if he nominated her,why would the Labour MP ask him to block the nomination

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... s-53662234
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Re: Education, education, education and war : Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:08 pm  
Maybe it was Cummings idea.
That's the trouble with our media, even when you're looking for specific facts it's all smoke and mirrors. Without the facts we dont have a democracy.
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Re: Education, education, education and war : Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:49 pm  
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Maybe it was Cummings idea.
That's the trouble with our media, even when you're looking for specific facts it's all smoke and mirrors. Without the facts we dont have a democracy.


Wouldn't disagree,its like trying to finish a puzzle but some of the pieces are missing.
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Re: Education, education, education and war : Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:48 am  
What makes Johnson angry, the school exams fiasco, Cummins eye test, test track and trace, the number of unnecessary deaths no it is because he has to cancel his holiday because his location became public. It didn’t help by trespassing on a farmer’s field by using the cottage furniture to climb over a fence.
I guess he now knows what all those holidaymakers feel who had to dash back to the U.K. at great expense because of the sudden application of quarantine or those who can’t go at all because they are not insured due to the essential travel definition.
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Re: Education, education, education and war : Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:06 pm  
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What makes Johnson angry, the school exams fiasco, Cummins eye test, test track and trace, the number of unnecessary deaths no it is because he has to cancel his holiday because his location became public. It didn’t help by trespassing on a farmer’s field by using the cottage furniture to climb over a fence.
I guess he now knows what all those holidaymakers feel who had to dash back to the U.K. at great expense because of the sudden application of quarantine or those who can’t go at all because they are not insured due to the essential travel definition.

you must be running low on Werthers... should I start a go fund me to buy you more?

a hate filled individual if ever there was.

Mr Johnson is entitled to a family life, he has a new son and a beautiful partner, an education and lots of money in the bank, things you can only dream of ever achieving.
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Re: Education, education, education and war : Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:22 pm  
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Mr Johnson is entitled to a family life, he has a new son and a beautiful partner, an education and lots of money in the bank, things you can only dream of ever achieving.


You've got some boot polish on your chin.
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Re: Education, education, education and war : Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:24 pm  
I have a wife but only one never felt the need to be unfaithful unlike Johnson who has made a career out of it. I admit he is better pole dancer but that is down to his training.
He is entitled to a family life but those that have unnecessary lost loved ones because of his failures also deserve the same don’t you agree or in your world were they just acceptable casualties to have a Conservative government.
I see you are once again using your normal stereotype that I am a socialist with being badly educated and poor, both of which are incorrect, I believe the former helps me see the failure that is a Johnson/Cummins government.
I suppose you prove the opposite because you actually believe that Johnson cares for people like you, he does not but whilst you continue to do so he will not change and will continue to avoid scrutiny.
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Re: Education, education, education and war : Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:52 pm  
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I have a wife but only one never felt the need to be unfaithful unlike Johnson who has made a career out of it. I admit he is better pole dancer but that is down to his training.
He is entitled to a family life but those that have unnecessary lost loved ones because of his failures also deserve the same don’t you agree or in your world were they just acceptable casualties to have a Conservative government.
I see you are once again using your normal stereotype that I am a socialist with being badly educated and poor, both of which are incorrect, I believe the former helps me see the failure that is a Johnson/Cummins government.
I suppose you prove the opposite because you actually believe that Johnson cares for people like you, he does not but whilst you continue to do so he will not change and will continue to avoid scrutiny.


Seen as title of thread includes War,thought i would change your highlighted quote slightly,as it seems to fit quite well for Tony Blair.

"He is entitled to a family life,but those that have unnecessary lost loved ones because of his lies also deserve the same don't you agree,or in your world were they just acceptable casualties to have a Labour government."
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Re: Education, education, education and war : Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:08 pm  
There was at least a report prepared and published something Johnson seems reluctant to ever do. The report actually held MI6 to be at fault because it was they who produced the dossier. It was from this that the urgency to go to war was decided albeit based on misleading information provided to Blair. Let us not forget that it was the Labour government who pulled the majority of the U.K. troops out. It is a sad fact of life that our armed forces are called into action by all political parties so let’s not be so selective in thinking this is a one party trait. The armed forces job is to follow orders hence the carnage of the First World War
The pandemic has resulted in the excess death of over 60,000 U.K. civilians so you consider this to be acceptable. We are now opening schools no if no buts but what have the government done to prepare for this. I doubt anyone is going to believe Gavin Williamson when he says it is safe because like many in the Conservative party he is not exactly to be trusted.
I expect you will agree with me that the failures of this government have resulted in the deaths of many civilians unnecessarily and the way they are going this is likely to continue increasing or do you believe it was the scientists providing incorrect information which the acted on in good faith.
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Re: Education, education, education and war : Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:05 am  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
There was at least a report prepared and published something Johnson seems reluctant to ever do. The report actually held MI6 to be at fault because it was they who produced the dossier. It was from this that the urgency to go to war was decided albeit based on misleading information provided to Blair. Let us not forget that it was the Labour government who pulled the majority of the U.K. troops out. It is a sad fact of life that our armed forces are called into action by all political parties so let’s not be so selective in thinking this is a one party trait. The armed forces job is to follow orders hence the carnage of the First World War
The pandemic has resulted in the excess death of over 60,000 U.K. civilians so you consider this to be acceptable. We are now opening schools no if no buts but what have the government done to prepare for this. I doubt anyone is going to believe Gavin Williamson when he says it is safe because like many in the Conservative party he is not exactly to be trusted.
I expect you will agree with me that the failures of this government have resulted in the deaths of many civilians unnecessarily and the way they are going this is likely to continue increasing or do you believe it was the scientists providing incorrect information which the acted on in good faith.


What would you like Boris to do a report on ?
I trust a report commencing in 6 years is acceptable?
Even with the Chilcot Report,Blair still didnt think he made the wrong decision to go to war.
I particularly like your view on the Armed Forces - its their JOB to follow orders.
Hopefully people on here will stop asking for nurses to be financially rewarded for their efforts through this pandemic,after all its their JOB to provide medical care to patients in hospital.
Not sure of the relevance of Labour pulling the troops out - it was a Labour government.
The buck stops with Boris,just like the buck stopped with Blair.
Im not sure i would consider any amount of excess deaths to be acceptable,although i will wait until the pandemic has settled and it will probably take many years to understand fully the mistakes made.
I can fully accept that mistakes have been made by the government that have led to deaths,same scenario is likely to different degrees across the world.
What i also accept is that all the parties are gash,no matter what colour the rosette.
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