Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:36 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

This sounds like a total copout to me. It is patent rubbish.

Patent rubbish or not, nurses aren't allowed to wear jewellery (my wife is a nurse) so why should a religious person be any different?.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:38 pm  

christopher wrote:

Patent rubbish or not, nurses aren't allowed to wear jewellery (my wife is a nurse) so why should a religious person be any different?.

Because some appear to think that religion is special and religious people deserve special treatment.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:02 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Because some appear to think that religion is special and religious people deserve special treatment.

religous people do deserve derision, they are lunatics, see kirkstaller for details.

I hate, with a passion, his ilk, they offer no value to any society.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:10 pm  

Standee wrote:

religous people do deserve derision, they are lunatics, see kirkstaller for details.

I hate, with a passion, his ilk, they offer no value to any society.

Bit strong.
They are allowed to be indoctrinated, unfortunately.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:55 pm  

We might as throw this one into the equation. Prejudice rather than offence. Six months? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20003058

We might as throw this one into the equation. Prejudice rather than offence. Six months? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20003058

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:34 pm  

christopher wrote:

Patent rubbish or not, nurses aren't allowed to wear jewellery (my wife is a nurse) so why should a religious person be any different?.

Whoosh?

NO person is, or should be, "any different". The whole point of what I wrote was that the hospital should make a rational judgment on clothes policy and then apply it the same to everyone.

A person may choose to want to wear something because they are religious, but their particular motivation should have NO bearing on the decision as to whether they are allowed to do so.

This does not mean that everyone or no-one has to wear a hijab, or a necklace. If the item is permitted, anyone can wear one, and if it isn't then nobody can.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:47 pm  

WIZEB wrote: We might as throw this one into the equation. Prejudice rather than offence. Six months? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20003058 Entirely fair and proportionate. The bigger the disruption you cause and the more people's enjoyment of a legitimate leisure or sporting activity you ruin, the higher price you should have to pay. On targeting the race, he said: "It's a symbol of a lot of issues in Britain around class. Seventy per cent of government pushing through very significant cuts are Oxford or Cambridge graduates. "It was a symbolic gesture to these kind of issues." Why not go disrupt a Coalition activity then? I'm pretty sure nobody in either boat was in any way responsible for a single government cut. Anyway, job done. Now you're a symbolic martyr to your muddled class war, and have had precisely zero effect on any single government cut, just spoiled the event for loads of people, many of whom would be against government cuts.

WIZEB wrote: We might as throw this one into the equation. Prejudice rather than offence. Six months? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20003058 Entirely fair and proportionate. The bigger the disruption you cause and the more people's enjoyment of a legitimate leisure or sporting activity you ruin, the higher price you should have to pay. On targeting the race, he said: "It's a symbol of a lot of issues in Britain around class. Seventy per cent of government pushing through very significant cuts are Oxford or Cambridge graduates. "It was a symbolic gesture to these kind of issues." Why not go disrupt a Coalition activity then? I'm pretty sure nobody in either boat was in any way responsible for a single government cut. Anyway, job done. Now you're a symbolic martyr to your muddled class war, and have had precisely zero effect on any single government cut, just spoiled the event for loads of people, many of whom would be against government cuts.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:12 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Entirely fair and proportionate. The bigger the disruption you cause and the more people's enjoyment of a legitimate leisure or sporting activity you ruin, the higher price you should have to pay.

Why not go disrupt a Coalition activity then? I'm pretty sure nobody in either boat was in any way responsible for a single government cut. Anyway, job done. Now you're a symbolic martyr to your muddled class war, and have had precisely zero effect on any single government cut, just spoiled the event for loads of people, many of whom would be against government cuts.

A tool, I would wholeheartedly agree.
Spoiling and disrupting peoples enjoyment?

Each to their own.
Livened the boreathon up for me.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:28 pm  

WIZEB wrote: A tool, I would wholeheartedly agree. Spoiling and disrupting peoples enjoyment? Each to their own. Livened the boreathon up for me. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/dec/09/rowing-boat-race-oxford-cambridge Might have livened up a boreathon for you, but you don't seem to have much consideration for the athletes who'd trained a lifetime to be in those boats 'When I missed your head with my blade I knew only that you were a swimmer, and if you say you are a protester then no matter what you say your cause may be, your action speaks too loudly for me to hear you. I know … exactly what you were protesting. You were protesting the right of 17 young men and one woman to compete fairly and honourably, to demonstrate their hard work and desire in a proud tradition. You were protesting their right to devote years of their lives, their friendships, and their souls to the fair pursuits of the joys and the hardships of sport. You, who would make a mockery of their dedication and their courage, are a mockery of a man' William Zeng Still, as long as you were mildly amused for a moment.

WIZEB wrote: A tool, I would wholeheartedly agree. Spoiling and disrupting peoples enjoyment? Each to their own. Livened the boreathon up for me. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/dec/09/rowing-boat-race-oxford-cambridge Might have livened up a boreathon for you, but you don't seem to have much consideration for the athletes who'd trained a lifetime to be in those boats 'When I missed your head with my blade I knew only that you were a swimmer, and if you say you are a protester then no matter what you say your cause may be, your action speaks too loudly for me to hear you. I know … exactly what you were protesting. You were protesting the right of 17 young men and one woman to compete fairly and honourably, to demonstrate their hard work and desire in a proud tradition. You were protesting their right to devote years of their lives, their friendships, and their souls to the fair pursuits of the joys and the hardships of sport. You, who would make a mockery of their dedication and their courage, are a mockery of a man' William Zeng Still, as long as you were mildly amused for a moment.

Re: Another jailed for causing 'offence' : Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:39 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/dec/09/rowing-boat-race-oxford-cambridge After reconsideration, and with a first name like Trenton, he probably deserves 12 months. Can we lock him in the same cell as Bryan Ferry's son?

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/dec/09/rowing-boat-race-oxford-cambridge After reconsideration, and with a first name like Trenton, he probably deserves 12 months. Can we lock him in the same cell as Bryan Ferry's son?