Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:24 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

To be fair to the supermarkets though their's is the only turnover that is increasing year on year and they are among the few businesses that are still opening new outlets ...

It does help when they get away with bullying suppliers and producers into funding in-store price cuts for them – and when they get free labour paid for by you and me.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:24 pm  

DHM wrote:

Ignore him. I moved around all over the country to work for various reasons. Then I had kids and I wouldn't move now if you put a bomb under my backside. If I lost my job and couldn't get another without relocating I'd take the state for every penny I could if it meant my kids could finish school here where they've grown up, with their friends and where they feel safe.

Next the same whingers who complain about people not travelling to the ends of Britain uprooting their families (who they shouldn't even have without the correct amount of funding in place for the next 20 years) will be b!tch!ng about "broken Britain" and the demise of the "community". You can't have a f*****g community if everyone has to move every 6 months from one rented craphole to another all around the country to stack supermarket shelves and work as temps in warehouses or farm fields.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:41 pm  

Mintball wrote:

It does help when they get away with bullying suppliers and producers into funding in-store price cuts for them – and when they get free labour paid for by you and me.

When you're unemployed and the rest of the world is speaking of several more years of depression then your moral objections have to take a back seat when work is offered. I've traded with all of the largest five supermarkets for 20 years and believe me, its much easier selling to them than to imagine that they didn't have to exist and have to sell to fifty times as many independent corner shops.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:07 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

When you're unemployed and the rest of the world is speaking of several more years of depression then your moral objections have to take a back seat when work is offered. I've traded with all of the largest five supermarkets for 20 years and believe me, its much easier selling to them than to imagine that they didn't have to exist and have to sell to fifty times as many independent corner shops.

Well yes - they have 80% of the UK grocery retail trade, so it's not easy to avoid trading with them and it's therefore not easy to say 'no' when, for instance, the supermarket says you'll carry the cost of an in-store price cut.

But I wasn't suggesting someone shouldn't take a job in a supermarket - I was merely responding to your comment about how well they're doing.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:17 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

Some of the comments on this thread make me sad. It's oh so easy for those fortunate enough not to have lost their jobs during the recession to sit there and pontificate to those who are struggling through no fault of their own.

I hope not only that everything works out for Anakin, but that those who have been so callous towards him in this thread one day get to experience a similar predicament to his first hand.

What do you really expect from right-wing t0sspots who don't give a fook about anybody but themselves?

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:51 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

When you're unemployed and the rest of the world is speaking of several more years of depression then your moral objections have to take a back seat when work is offered. I've traded with all of the largest five supermarkets for 20 years and believe me, its much easier selling to them than to imagine that they didn't have to exist and have to sell to fifty times as many independent corner shops.

Try selling them some spuds next time

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:57 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

What do you really expect from right-wing t0sspots who don't give a fook about anybody but themselves?

I would say that it's perhaps not entirely that simple: that part of the tragedy, in my opinion, is that a lot of people (and not just here) is they have been convinced that this is the only way - that there is no alternative. We have been trained, over 30 years, to think like this. That job security is not desirable - that it's lazy, even, and un-aspirational. That family is of less importance than, in effect, being a 'flexible' worker - regardless of what that means.

I've asked before when it became the case of the people serving the economy and not the other way around.

I think what you see here is, in part at least, the triumph of that ideology.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:57 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

You need to spend your time "networking" or brown-nosing the management there as often they will know of openings coming up.

Best of luck.

I was going to say a similar thing earlier. Basically, work harder and quicker than others and always be pleasant. Try to befriend your immediate 'manager' and not treat him as a 'them' to your 'us'. I hope iy goes well and you get something long term out of it.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:05 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

Some of the comments on this thread make me sad. It's oh so easy for those fortunate enough not to have lost their jobs during the recession to sit there and pontificate to those who are struggling through no fault of their own.

I hope not only that everything works out for Anakin, but that those who have been so callous towards him in this thread one day get to experience a similar predicament to his first hand.

To be fair, there's only been one who went OTT. Fortunately he waved the white flag and buggered off somewhere near the bottom of page 6

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:10 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

To be fair, there's only been one who went OTT. Fortunately he waved the white flag and buggered off somewhere near the bottom of page 6

It was mainly that one I was referring to!