Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:34 pm  

Battlefield 4 Multiplayer is looking awesome.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:31 am  

PS4 dominating XBone in an Amazon Poll, currently 36,000 PS4 votes vs 2,000 Xbox One Very surprised to see such a big difference Similar results at Gamespot. I saw this on the Twitter feed at that gamespot link, got a cheap laugh out of me

PS4 dominating XBone in an Amazon Poll, currently 36,000 PS4 votes vs 2,000 Xbox One Very surprised to see such a big difference Similar results at Gamespot. I saw this on the Twitter feed at that gamespot link, got a cheap laugh out of me

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:52 pm  

Xbox one demo at E3 wasn't even an Xbox one.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:09 pm  

I can guarantee you that every single trailer, demo and live presentation shown at E3 was running on a pc, not the actual consoles themselves.
At the end of the day, all these consoles really are underneath are top end PCs.

The Last of Us is incredible btw. Visually probably the best looking game on the PS3, it could quite easily be a PS4 launch title it looks so pretty. The gameplay is awesome too, a mix of stealth, action and even survival horror in parts! Stunning game.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:25 pm  

Nothus wrote:

I can guarantee you that every single trailer, demo and live presentation shown at E3 was running on a pc, not the actual consoles themselves.
At the end of the day, all these consoles really are underneath are top end PCs.

no, they're not. Top end PCs cost a lot more and perform a lot better, it's that simple. As consoles improve, PCs can be and often are custom built so there's no build up to release so they just don't have the hype. I hate to sound like a PC snob but they are simply better.

Every other demo looks like the actual thing, Microsoft are heading up poop creek without a paddle, at least there's an always on camera so we can all watch and laugh

I suggest anyone still deciding on an Xbox One reads 1984. If you've already read it, read it again.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:52 pm  

the cal train wrote:

no, they're not. Top end PCs cost a lot more and perform a lot better, it's that simple. As consoles improve, PCs can be and often are custom built so there's no build up to release so they just don't have the hype. I hate to sound like a PC snob but they are simply better.

Every other demo looks like the actual thing, Microsoft are heading up poop creek without a paddle, at least there's an always on camera so we can all watch and laugh

I suggest anyone still deciding on an Xbox One reads 1984. If you've already read it, read it again.

If anything the next generation looks very similar to this. Xbox Live will still be better, it's still got more content, the controller is still better, the Kinnect and voice control is still cool and the TV integration looks very good as well.

The always-on camera isn't beaming your picture back to MS all the time either. It's more for the voice input and things like head tracking in games. Let people turn it off and you have to disable loads of features in games and it all gets messy. But if you want to see it as a spy service and imagine a Microsoft employee sat watching you 24/7 then go ahead.

As for PCs, as mentioned these consoles are entirely PC hardware. They just have an OS overlayed on top. Of course you can make a more powerful PC, but you then don't get the efficiency of the console ecosystem where everything is in one place, nor do you get the tightness of the social features on the consoles. Sure you can get into a clan on a shooting game, but then if you wanted to know whether that friend is playing FIFA, COD or SimCity when you get in from the pub, you'd have to get their contact details etc. On console everything is right there.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:31 pm  

"The controller is better", that's just subjective, seems like you are clutching at straws a bit there saddened. I have found out more info on the xbox stats, The memory used is DDR 3 as opposed to PS4's DDR 5 and the graphics processor has half as much power as the PS4's. I was tilting towards the PS4 before now i'm going to reserve one.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:02 pm  

gary numan wrote:

"The controller is better", that's just subjective, seems like you are clutching at straws a bit there saddened. I have found out more info on the xbox stats, The memory used is DDR 3 as opposed to PS4's DDR 5 and the graphics processor has half as much power as the PS4's. I was tilting towards the PS4 before now i'm going to reserve one.

You have to realise that Saddened does have that fanboy trait of stating opinion on a subjective matter as indisputable fact. Unless they show a particular propensity to fall apart, controllers are pretty much always down to personal preference.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:36 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

You have to realise that Saddened does have that fanboy trait of stating opinion on a subjective matter as indisputable fact. Unless they show a particular propensity to fall apart, controllers are pretty much always down to personal preference.

We're all fanboys at heart, I'm just brave enough to admit my bias. Of course they are down to personal preference, in the same way as someone could find Jo Brand (PS4 controller) as attractive as Beyonce (Xbox One controller)

Whilst we are talking indisputable fact, where do the claims the PS4 is twice as powerful as the Xbox One graphically come from? Every expert commentary I've read has said it's even closer than this gen as they are primarily very similar machines and that it'll be nigh on impossible to tell the difference.

Re: PS, Xbox, Wii, PC and other Gaming #10 : Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:07 pm  

Saddened! wrote: We're all fanboys at heart, I'm just brave enough to admit my bias. Of course they are down to personal preference, in the same way as someone could find Jo Brand (PS4 controller) as attractive as Beyonce (Xbox One controller) Yeah, we all have a certain bias. There are vastly differing degrees, though, and sometimes just plain blind followers. And surely with comparative size the XBox controller would be the Jo Brand? Saddened! wrote: Whilst we are talking indisputable fact, where do the claims the PS4 is twice as powerful as the Xbox One graphically come from? Every expert commentary I've read has said it's even closer than this gen as they are primarily very similar machines and that it'll be nigh on impossible to tell the difference. No idea about twice as powerful, but quite a few comparisons do seem to think the PS4 will have the edge. By how much seems to depend upon this eSRAM buffer, whatever that is. In terms of raw horsepower, it does seem like the PS4 is in front (and using more expensive guts, which makes the cheaper price all the better). This might tell you more. And here they concentrate just on the graphics hardware. The thing is, apart from first party/exclusive games I don't think it's ever really going to matter. Developers are always likely to work at around the 'inferior' machine's level to make sure their games run properly on both, as we've seen in this generation, so I don't think we're ever going to see huge differences in direct comparisons of the same game on different platforms.

Saddened! wrote: We're all fanboys at heart, I'm just brave enough to admit my bias. Of course they are down to personal preference, in the same way as someone could find Jo Brand (PS4 controller) as attractive as Beyonce (Xbox One controller) Yeah, we all have a certain bias. There are vastly differing degrees, though, and sometimes just plain blind followers. And surely with comparative size the XBox controller would be the Jo Brand? Saddened! wrote: Whilst we are talking indisputable fact, where do the claims the PS4 is twice as powerful as the Xbox One graphically come from? Every expert commentary I've read has said it's even closer than this gen as they are primarily very similar machines and that it'll be nigh on impossible to tell the difference. No idea about twice as powerful, but quite a few comparisons do seem to think the PS4 will have the edge. By how much seems to depend upon this eSRAM buffer, whatever that is. In terms of raw horsepower, it does seem like the PS4 is in front (and using more expensive guts, which makes the cheaper price all the better). This might tell you more. And here they concentrate just on the graphics hardware. The thing is, apart from first party/exclusive games I don't think it's ever really going to matter. Developers are always likely to work at around the 'inferior' machine's level to make sure their games run properly on both, as we've seen in this generation, so I don't think we're ever going to see huge differences in direct comparisons of the same game on different platforms.