Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 9:28 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

It's as though you are suggesting that we should have a coherent strategy on energy, rather than letting "the markets" pull us in a certain direction.

It's amazing how some people have so contorted themselves to align with an anti-liberal (or anti-something) identity that they have turned themselves into shills for big oil.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 10:35 am  

In summary a less than impressive Labour performance.
Post partygate Boris got what he knew was coming but it wasn’t too bad in the greater scheme of things.
2 years now to move the party in its intended direction and get this nonsense behind them.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 11:38 am  

Losing a quarter of your seats from an already very low base "wasn't too bad in the greater scheme of things"

The spin from TDLers is fantastic.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 12:41 pm  

A bit quiet on here concerning that starmer blokes impending fine for breaking lock down rules, wonder if he'll offer to resign if found guilty, probably just unlucky getting caught.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 2:48 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

In summary a less than impressive Labour performance.
Post partygate Boris got what he knew was coming but it wasn’t too bad in the greater scheme of things.
2 years now to move the party in its intended direction and get this nonsense behind them.

What is the intended direction of the Conservative party, iyo?

chissitt wrote:

A bit quiet on here concerning that starmer blokes impending fine for breaking lock down rules, wonder if he'll offer to resign if found guilty, probably just unlucky getting caught.

He’d have to resign, on principle, imo. After the standard he has held Johnson, and in some ways Corbyn, to. Also, I suspect he’s basically a honourable. I’d like to think it’d help get shot of Johnson too… but I suspect he’ll try to exploit it as ‘see, it wasn’t just me’. I increasingly think it’ll be cost of living, and general drift and incompetence that’ll do for Johnson in the end.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 3:01 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

What is the intended direction of the Conservative party

Even more authoritarian, intolerant, anti-democratic and anti-British?

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 4:48 pm  

chissitt wrote:

A bit quiet on here concerning that starmer blokes impending fine for breaking lock down rules, wonder if he'll offer to resign if found guilty, probably just unlucky getting caught.

I'm ok if Starmer is fined and consequently resigns but, surely, he shouldn't go unless Johnson also resigns ?

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 4:56 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I'm ok if Starmer is fined and consequently resigns but, surely, he shouldn't go unless Johnson also resigns ?

He'd have to go IF found guilty after all his pious, sanctimonious, holier than though lecturing over the past couple of month's.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 5:06 pm  

It's vanishingly unlikely Starmer will be found guilty given all we know about this and why it's being investigated. But if he were he'd have to go, and I'm sure as a pretty honourable person, he would.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 07, 2022 5:39 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I'm ok if Starmer is fined and consequently resigns but, surely, he shouldn't go unless Johnson also resigns ?

Nobody with a shred of decency, honour or dignity can justify their actions by saying they’re no worse that Johnson, and sinking to his standards.