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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:36 pm  
Dally wrote:
Creently the French econonomy is way underperforming the British one.

Based on what measure? Since the Tories came to power in may 2010 the French economic growth has been more than double that of the UK.
Dally wrote:
The UK economy is about to overtake France's GDP too.

I genuinely fail to see how this can possibly be the case. So our GDP is smaller, and growing more slowly, yet we will soon overtake them!?

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How is it, and WHY is it, that the millionaires are going to end up 2-3k better off per month from April?

They're going to be more than 2-3k better off if they earn a decent amount. For income over £150,000 the rate of tax has been cut from 50% to 45%. Yes they will lose out on child benefit, but because this isn't proportional to their very large incomes (in the same way their tax cut is) it doesn't nearly make up for it.

This was despite figures from the OBR showing that cutting the rate below 47% would decrease government revenue, so the ONLY justification for the move was to give some extra cash to their rich mates (and themselves).

Dally wrote:
A lot of bullshit comparing people going for a pint and the tax system

In that analogy the amount they pay for their beer represents taxes, so beer represents what they get out of society. In your story it is implied that they all drink the same amount of beer, thus all get the same out of society. I would argue that is'nt the case at all - Rich people benefit far more from the fact that our society facilitates people to be prosperous*. The richest 10% own 53% of the UK's wealth, whereas the bottom 50% own 7%, so the analogy would've made more sense if 10 men go to a bar, the first 5 men share half a pint,... and the last man gets 5 and a bit pints all to himself - then shock horror people expect him to pay significantly more.

*before you claim that the rich are self-made men, and they don't owe it to the state for providing a country which made it possible to become rich, please answer me this: how many of them would've become rich if they'd being born in Somalia?
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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:37 pm  
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Call yourself an oracle? :wink:


Nah. Never have, mate. Wouldn't want to be, either. :)
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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:40 pm  
Christ samwire, you're a thick and unpleasant little f*ck, aren't you? Is that what your mummy taught you?

Was she as nasty a piece as you patently are? And as thick?

Obviously the two do often come together – and in you, we see them in perfect harmony. So it seems fair to ask if that's genetic.

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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:41 pm  
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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:42 pm  
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Christ samwire, you're a thick and unpleasant little f*ck, aren't you? Is that what your mummy taught you?

Was she as nasty a piece as you patently are? And as thick?

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Kirkstaller will be after you now :wink:
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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:43 pm  
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Kirkstaller will be after you now :wink:


Like he got worked up the other day when Rooster had him by the short and curlys? :twisted:
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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:49 pm  
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That's how exams were in the past.


Yes, thats what you were talking about.
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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:51 pm  
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Strivers not Skivers


So have a read of this http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/08/welfare-uprating-bill-2_n_2432078.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics


And then come back and answer two simple questions...

1. Is the lady in question a striver or a skiver ?

2. What is the planned change to working tax credit going to do to help her ?



Remember - you can't earn working tax credit unless you're already a striver.
Ajw71 wrote:
Strivers not Skivers


So have a read of this http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/08/welfare-uprating-bill-2_n_2432078.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics


And then come back and answer two simple questions...

1. Is the lady in question a striver or a skiver ?

2. What is the planned change to working tax credit going to do to help her ?



Remember - you can't earn working tax credit unless you're already a striver.
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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:51 pm  
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Like he got worked up the other day when Rooster had him by the short and curlys? :twisted:


Judging by your abuse ridden post of 6.40 pm it appears you are the one getting 'worked up'.
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Re: David Cameron - 2020 : Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:54 pm  
Mintball wrote:
Christ samwire, you're a thick and unpleasant little f*ck, aren't you? Is that what your mummy taught you?

Was she as nasty a piece as you patently are? And as thick?

Obviously the two do often come together – and in you, we see them in perfect harmony. So it seems fair to ask if that's genetic.

:D

oh, bless. got quite a temper haven't you? you should really chill out a bit.
is this how you always react when someone points out you're not as smart as you reckon you are.
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