Re: Public emotion : Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:17 pm  

Some people just can't think for themselves and react how they believe they're expected to react.

Look at the reaction to the Kony campaign, that shows what you're talking about x100. These people don't really care, really. You could tell them about so many abhorrent crimes with thousands, tens of thousands, sometimes millions dying, and you'd be lucky to get a shrug from them. The reason why is because they're not told by society to care or grieve, so they don't bother. When they are expected to react in that way (as in the Kony viral nonsense) then they do.

It's fickle and artificial, mostly.

Re: Public emotion : Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:09 am  

Sheldon wrote:

Should the Mccans give up then?

If they hadn't left their daughter alone in a room whilst they were out then they'd not be going through what they are going through. Child neglect pure and simple.

Re: Public emotion : Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:44 am  

I like this thread, though i won't touch on the Hillsbrough issue as i fear i may go off on one.

I was 12 when Diana was killed in Paris, i was on holiday with my foster parents and their own children. I got back to the caravan after going swimming and my foster mum, tears in eye, told me that Princess Diana had died, to which my response was (exact words) ''oh, well it's just the Royal Family minus one isn't it''. You wouldn't believe the scorn i had poured on me for that comment. Then on the day of the funeral, there was my foster mum and her daughter, sat watching the funeral in tears, and they were disgusted that i wandered off into the street to play cricket with my mates, then getting moaned at later in the day for 'playing cricket instead of observing the minutes silence'.

I didn't care then, and nor would i / will care now if anything like that happens to someone who i do not know personally.

Re: Public emotion : Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:17 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

... Child neglect pure and simple.

I know we've been through this one many, many times before – but it was entirely standard practice not that many years ago, before our current culture of paranoia took hold. And it was not "neglect".

Re: Public emotion : Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:17 pm  

So assuming you are a Warrington fan, and if Briers, Hodgson and Westwood for instance all heaven forbid got got killed in a car crash you wouldn't care?

Re: Public emotion : Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:31 pm  

r a n c i d wrote:

Do you think so? I would say support for monarchism is higher than I've ever seen it. It's a much more difficult task to find someone opposed to it these days as it once was. It used to be there was majority opposition to monarchism, now I'm not all that sure there is.

Pro-monarchy, pro-establishment sentiment is at an all time high.

Don't agree. It's pro-monarchy, pro-establishment propaganda that's at an all time high. Even though the Republican inclined person doesn't have a voice there's still a good few about.

Re: Public emotion : Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:30 pm  

Mintball wrote:

I know we've been through this one many, many times before – but it was entirely standard practice not that many years ago, before our current culture of paranoia took hold. And it was not "neglect".

Indeed, my brother and I were left in a caravan every night of our annual holidays while our parents went out a-drinking and a-dancing when I was a kid, every child was and there was no shortage of paedophiles in the 1960s (its not a new phenomenon), and I and my wife have left our two children in a hotel room while we popped down to the bar for a drink on more than one occasion - we also let them play out on the streets and we didn't always make them wear helmets and elbow/knee pads when they played on their bikes, they've grown up to be two confident adults, the odd physical scar here and there from falling off bikes but what the hell...

Re: Public emotion : Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:34 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

So assuming you are a Warrington fan, and if Briers, Hodgson and Westwood for instance all heaven forbid got got killed in a car crash you wouldn't care?

I'd suggest he would have more of a connection to the players, than Diana. I'd also suggest that most people (outisde their imediate family) wouldn't react the way people did when she died, or during the funeral etc.

Re: Public emotion : Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:05 pm  

Scooter Nik wrote:

Everyone knows. It was in The Express wasn't it?


On a related note, the endless bewailing of the McCann story continues abated. I see that Madeleine has been seen again by someone. Do you want to bet that they saw a little girl who looked a bit like Madeleine WHEN SHE VANISHED, not as she would be now?

Happens all over the world to other parents but you don't hear a thing for it. Suppose when you have money to back up a massive campaign like the McCanns and Lawrence family did when Claudia disappeared you can have the story running for years though and even make yourself a "celebrity" out of it too!

Re: Public emotion : Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:02 pm  

Neil HFC wrote:

I'd suggest he would have more of a connection to the players, than Diana. I'd also suggest that most people (outisde their imediate family) wouldn't react the way people did when she died, or during the funeral etc.

Quite. Though i'd feel shock, and i'd feel bad for their families etc, i wouldn't ''care'' on a personal level. When Briers' brother died i felt bad for Lee but not on a personal level, unlike the wailers at Diana's funeral. BUT, i suppose it's each to their own.