Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:19 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Agreed. Felt this for some time.

Had to gasp when Michael Portillo gave Brown credit for that on BBC24 today.

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:22 pm  

Just a thought for you experts, if the Tories got their way and we eventually pulled out of Europe, does this mean we extradite all the Eastern Europeans that are settled here

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:31 pm  

fargrange1 wrote:

Just a thought for you experts, if the Tories got their way and we eventually pulled out of Europe, does this mean we extradite all the Eastern Europeans that are settled here

Not my girlfriend, or my son's girlfriend I hope......

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:53 pm  

billypop wrote: I am sure you can quote your sources, and I am even more sure that the German economy relies on the UK's economy. Wait a minute, no it doesn't. What a div you are. Now go away and get some education. http://cars.european-traveler.com/germa ... tomobiles/ Silly little boy aren't you?

billypop wrote: I am sure you can quote your sources, and I am even more sure that the German economy relies on the UK's economy. Wait a minute, no it doesn't. What a div you are. Now go away and get some education. http://cars.european-traveler.com/germa ... tomobiles/ Silly little boy aren't you?

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:00 pm  

Mintball wrote:

It's a reality. Get over it.

No. We have a debt crisis caused by conventional banking write downs on loans (mainly to greedy householders) and a sovereign debt crisis due to excessive governmental spending across Europe and the USA. Casino (or investment banking) is not at all the issue. It's just popularist guff so that people don't need to accept any personal responsibility and politicians can have scape-goats (in rhetorial terms only).

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:02 pm  

fargrange1 wrote:

Just a thought for you experts, if the Tories got their way and we eventually pulled out of Europe, does this mean we extradite all the Eastern Europeans that are settled here

Seeing as they entered on the premise that we are in the EU, then the answer should be yes?

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:04 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Seeing as they entered on the premise that we are in the EU, then the answer should be yes?

That would be a matter of the UK government to decide. I think the Poles and Czechs are fantastic additions to the UK. Not sure about some of the others though!

Re: What now for the UK? : Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:25 pm  

Dally wrote:

That would be a matter of the UK government to decide. I think the Poles and Czechs are fantastic additions to the UK. Not sure about some of the others though!

Which would those be?....

[DaveO]

Re: What now for the UK? : Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:51 am  

Mintball wrote:

I'm entirely in favour of a transaction tax – but if enacted in the UK, it should be used to pay off the deficit and fund growth-boosting projects (and avoid the cuts that, apart from anything else, increase unemployment).

So you mean a transaction tax on transactions enacted in the Uk goes to the Uk tax man?

If so I agree. The thing is any transaction tax that would have come out of this summit would have meant the money raised went to support the Euro.

Now I do not care what colour anyone's politics are it would be a none starter for any UK PM to agree to that.

However while it is Ok to block that idea it is not OK to let the UK tax payer fund our bailout.

Those uk banks that caused the problem here still not paid.

[DaveO]

Re: What now for the UK? : Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:03 am  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Help me out on something

If the UK was to become completely independant from the EEC and was free to set its own rules and regulations on just about everything, does that not put us in a better position than the rest of Europe as Europe would be (in theory) all singing from the same hymn sheet stopping any of the countries having any sort of competitive advantage, whereas we are on the outside able to look in and offer an 'alternative'.

You help me out on something. What do you mean by competitive advantage?

Paying people less than France or Germany?

Germany seems to do very well economically despite being a fully paid up member of the EU and Eurozone despite all the shackles EU rules apparently impose.

Explain to me why Germany can sign up to all these EU things that protect workers and yet be the biggest EU economy?