Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:11 pm  

brearley84 wrote:

positive news that the PM is pushing ahead with the exit yesterday

It's positive news in your eyes, but "pushing ahead" is a bit of an exaggeration.

Whilst the reasons as to why people voted how they did has been done to death, the Immigration issue was the boss card, yet the new "Leader" has already changed the script.

When will it sink in, a number of rich individuals wanted out & hey-presto they've achieved their goal, ironically thanks to the poorest of society.

I was in my late teens, early twenties when Thatcher was in power, so I really do remember what the Tories were like. I just thank my lucky stars we were still in Europe then, could you even dare to imagine where this country would've gone.

Maybe we'll get to see.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:05 pm  

all too early to speculate, not even triggered the article yet to leave, then thats upto 2 years to do so

long wait to see the benefits

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:47 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

When will it sink in, a number of rich individuals wanted out & hey-presto they've achieved their goal, ironically thanks to the poorest of society.

How many rich individuals wanted us to remain in the EU? So many are now going to the end of the gravy train. The EU benefits the political class but the working classes got left behind. The vote for Brexit may have been a vote for uncertainty but at least it is a chance for change.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:46 pm  

wigan_rlfc wrote:

The vote for Brexit may have been a vote for uncertainty but at least it is a chance for change.

Sure there are going to be changes, but without the E.U. why would you believe the "working classes" are going to get a better deal?

Most of the employment law that protects workers has been through European directives, do you think any new rights will be implemented post Brexit?

The hard right of the Tory party have been trying to get out of Europe since day one, & now with the support of the disillusioned lower class they have achieved their goal - oh the irony.

Anyhow, what's the next referendum topic going to be, now we're heading down the Pre-2nd World War Germany route?

I'll go for the re-introduction of Capital Punishment, with a seventy percent result in favour.

Go Britain.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:56 am  

brearley84 wrote:

snippet today that arund 25% drop in foriegn workers applying to work in trade

more jobs for locals? bosses having to pay abit more?

Do you really see the hardened lumpenproletariat of the UK heading off to Norfolk for four months to pick vegetables?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:12 pm  

I realise that the leading Brexiteers have already admitted the immigration control subtext was basically a lie, but are we still getting the extra £ 300m+ a week for the NHS, or has that gone the way of the immigration claims too?

My bet is that we 'leave' the EU sometime in the next ten years, for some kind of affiliate status, which gives us access to single market. But in return we still need to pay the same level of net contribution we do now, we still need to have freedom of movement (there might be some token concessions about needing to have job before they come) , oh and to access that single market we'll need to be compliant with the EU law we no longer have any say in. But we will be officially OUT, even if OUT isn't what the Brexiteers thought they were getting.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:28 pm  

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

Do you really see the hardened lumpenproletariat of the UK heading off to Norfolk for four months to pick vegetables?

depends how much they will pay..

if no foreign workers to do it they will have to

all talk anyway for a few years yet, nothings changed as we have not left yet

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:17 am  

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

Do you really see the hardened lumpenproletariat of the UK heading off to Norfolk for four months to pick vegetables?

Depends whether they are guaranteed the actual four months work and get paid a wage they can live on for doing it.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:47 pm  

more talk of the EU army today, we were warned

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:29 pm  

brearley84 wrote:

more talk of the EU army today, we were warned

For what reasons would you be against (or be fearful of) an EU army?