Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:12 am  

Saddened! wrote:

It is propaganda though if they fail to mention why the site was bombed. If it was because Hamas were using it, as they are seemingly free to do, even in the UN controlled schools, then the blame lies with both of them.

don't be silly, Hamas haven't ,murdered anyone, ever

Tesco and BP are probably complicit in some people's eyes.

[Nat (Rugby_Aholic)]

Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:08 pm  

Does anyone think that the Israel assault will stop the missiles? All they are doing is recruiting thousands of people for Hamas.

Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:15 pm  

Israel are just doing it for the oil aren't they?

Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:45 pm  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

Does anyone think that the Israel assault will stop the missiles? All they are doing is recruiting thousands of people for Hamas.

Of course it won't, and of course they are. However, everyone knows and has known for years EXACTLY how Israel reacts to "attacks" from others, with a massive disproportionality. They'll continue to do this, and no matter how much the professional morally outraged whine about it from 000's of mile away, the Israel leadership only give a toss about it's citizens wishes/fears etc. In a couple of weeks the news cycle will move on and this will occupy the same place as the missing Nigerian schoolgirls and the adult woman who was deported, because ultimately, the vast majority don't give a toss what these sets of nutjobs do to each other.

Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:48 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

It is propaganda though if they fail to mention why the site was bombed. If it was because Hamas were using it, as they are seemingly free to do, even in the UN controlled schools, then the blame lies with both of them.

The site was bombed because the IDF think the Palestinians to be less than animals.

The Israeli military and intelligence organisations are very slick and efficient. They possess weaponry that really is capable of pinpoint, accurate targeting. Unfortunately they seemingly ignore the fact that Palestinian families now have nowhere safe to move to, they've moved, sometimes many times, where do you suggest they go? Gaza is one of the most intensely populated lands on earth. 139 square miles contains almost 2 million people, where the fook do they go, especially when half the area has already been bombed to shit?

Israel is a modern, sophisticated democracy, governed by seemingly intelligent people, with sophisticated weaponry available to them. Palestine is also a democracy, although the West now wishes it were not, governed by a bunch of radical nutjobs, armed with the modern equivalent of a blunderbus and a slingshot.

Without wishing to invoke Godwin, I still find it incredible that the Zionists have so quickly forgotten their past, not just the various diasporas and pogroms but also the founder of their own state.

Remind me, what happened when David met Goliath?

Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:16 pm  

Is this "balanced" enough?

Is this "balanced" enough?

Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:25 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

Remind me, what happened when David met Goliath?

The Jew won.

Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:12 pm  

BobbyD wrote:

The Jew won.

...with a guided smart stone, against a bloke with a lump of wood with a nail in the end of it.

Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:15 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

The site was bombed because the IDF think the Palestinians to be less than animals.

Not just the IDF Coddy. The Palestinians are held in contempt by the rest of the Arab world, and are looked upon as a shiftless troublemakers. Fine when it's Israel that they are being a pain to, but a quick check at the last 30 years will show they have been thrown out of every Arab state where the turned up in.

cod'ead wrote:

The Israeli military and intelligence organisations are very slick and efficient. They possess weaponry that really is capable of pinpoint, accurate targeting. Unfortunately they seemingly ignore the fact that Palestinian families now have nowhere safe to move to, they've moved, sometimes many times, where do you suggest they go? Gaza is one of the most intensely populated lands on earth. 139 square miles contains almost 2 million people, where the fook do they go, especially when half the area has already been bombed to shit?

Well, I would suggest the obvious answer would be to head over the border to the adjoining state of Egypt, but unfortunately their borders have been closed for ages against their noisy neighbours. Not much Arab solidarity there. In fact, haven't they just sentenced a thousand of the Yasser Arafat's old buddies, the Muslim Brotherhood to death?

cod'ead wrote:

Israel is a modern, sophisticated democracy, governed by seemingly intelligent people, with sophisticated weaponry available to them. Palestine is also a democracy, although the West now wishes it were not, governed by a bunch of radical nutjobs, armed with the modern equivalent of a blunderbus and a slingshot.

But these radical nutjobs were freely elected by the good folk of Gaza, who one presumes, were aware of what they were voting for. And now, the self same inhabitants are suffering the consequences of their brief flirtation with democracy. You might also ponder on the fact that whilst they have been bitching about the lack of food/medical supplies/the good things in life, they managed to acquire enough cement to line and brace the interior of all those tunnels........and all under the eyes of the several thousands of UN employees in Gaza. Remind us again Coddy, just what are the purposes of all those tunnels drilled into Israel?

cod'ead wrote:

Without wishing to invoke Godwin, I still find it incredible that the Zionists have so quickly forgotten their past, not just the various diasporas and pogroms but also the founder of their own state.

I would suggest that it is their past history which drives their very simple maxim of 'never again'

cod'ead wrote:

Remind me, what happened when David met Goliath?

Seriously? You might want to pick another example.....

But, one thing we can agree on, civilian casualties should never be dismissed as unavoidable collateral.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Israeli war crimes continue : Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:19 pm  

rumpelstiltskin wrote:

Live on Sky, a couple of hours into the cease fire Hamas sent a group of terrorists through a tunnel into Israel, and one exploded a suicide vest near some IDF soldiers. the rest grabbed one injured soldier and disappeared back through the tunnel into Gaza.

Time for the Israeli's to level this cesspit, once and for all.

Although this actually NEVER happened.

No Israeli Soldier was captured. They just had difficulty finding his body after the IDF blasted the Palestinians and their own soldier,

They have accepted it was a blue on blue.

Still it gave the Zionists a good three days of free propaganda