FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Tell us what you really think ...
::Off-topic discussion.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
In The Arms of 13 Angels17898
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 19 200321 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd Mar 20 10:2927th Aug 19 12:42LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Packed like sardines, in a tin
Signature
2005 Challenge Cup

To reconcile respect with practicality, what is the optimum speed for a hearse?

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:51 pm  
And Osborne is making such a good job of it Sal
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
All Time Great47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 10 200223 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Aug 17 19:0327th Jul 17 17:56LINK
Milestone Posts
40000
50000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Die Metropole
Signature
"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller

"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

The Voluptuous Manifesto – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:48 pm  
Sal Paradise wrote:
Growth has to come from the private sector you will not eradicate a deficit by increasing public spending...


Quite apart from anything else, this is historically incorrect. We had a massive debt after WWII. Do you know what we did? We went and borrowed and invested in building the NHS and education and loads of other things. And do you know what else we built with it? That's right – the prosperity of the 1950s.

These are matters of historic record.

And if one were to take the example of the private builder of fire engines that laid off half its staff a day or so after this coalition took office, then one has a perfect illustration of public sector cuts having a direct, negative consequence for the private sector.

Equally, of course, if those cuts were to be reversed, the company (that's the private company, remember) might gain contracts to build more fire engines. And ergo you have a little bit of growth, with more people employed, more people paying taxes and spending money in their local economy, and less money being spent on benefits. Ergo the deficit is decreased.

Sal Paradise wrote:
... Growth was less than 1% in 2010 ...


1) That was just two years after banks took us to the brink.

2) It was growth. We are now in a double dip recession. Caused by the imbecile in No11.

3) Anything over 0% is growth – and is a hell of a lot better than Osborne has managed.

Sal Paradise wrote:
2009 the last full year under Labour saw a significant downturn in the economy, unemployment has been growing since 2008 - to say Labour had it under control is a not supported by the figures!!


2009 – will that be the year after the effing banks tried to screw the entire global economy, will it? Y'remember that little event, do you?

There was growth when this lot took office – even you have acknowledged that. And that was just two years after near total meltdown.

Well let's spell it out very simply, once again: A whole whopping four years later, we are in a double-dip recession. The deficit has increased. Borrowing is up.

It's not working. The imbecile's plans are not working, because you can not get growth out of austerity. Even the IMF, that bastion of leftie thinking, has said that, in 170 examples of austerity policies being enacted over 40 years, not a single one has created growth.

And on the basis of your comments here about how dreadful it all was in 2009, a mere year after the financial crisis began in earnest, then Osborne has had a full year longer than that – and that was building on the growth that he inherited – to improve things further. He has not. He has made things a lot, lot worse.

You'd think that this was rocket science, FFS.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman37704No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 25 200223 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
7th Aug 18 19:077th Aug 18 19:06LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Signature
The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:37 am  
Mintball wrote:
Between a Conservative Party chairman who wants us to be a tax haven, more like the Cayman Islands,
All in it together ...


Conversely, there are many who expose the myth that we need to drive down taxes for the super rich to remain.

Britain's biggest taxpayers
Mintball wrote:
Between a Conservative Party chairman who wants us to be a tax haven, more like the Cayman Islands,
All in it together ...


Conversely, there are many who expose the myth that we need to drive down taxes for the super rich to remain.

Britain's biggest taxpayers
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman37704No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 25 200223 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
7th Aug 18 19:077th Aug 18 19:06LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Signature
The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:47 am  
It will be interesting to see how this develops: Minimum-tax city to be built in Honduras

Quite how you get the basic infrastructure for a whole city, within a budget of $15m is going to be a challenge all of its own and it will be very insteresting to see what happens when the fist inhabitants fall ill.
It will be interesting to see how this develops: Minimum-tax city to be built in Honduras

Quite how you get the basic infrastructure for a whole city, within a budget of $15m is going to be a challenge all of its own and it will be very insteresting to see what happens when the fist inhabitants fall ill.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach14302No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 14 200519 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th Sep 18 15:2520th Sep 15 06:47LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
On the Death Star Awaiting Luke.
Signature
If you only knew the POWER of the dark side.

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:55 am  
Sal Paradise wrote:
Growth has to come from the private sector you will not eradicate a deficit by increasing public spending. Pumping money into the public sector - Balls' preferred method - is not going to stimulate growth. Even Balls admitted Labour would need to reduce the level of borrowing if they retained power. Balls never offered a solution to driving growth.

Growth was less than 1% in 2010 so to say we had growth is stretching a definition and 2009 the last full year under Labour saw a significant downturn in the economy, unemployment has been growing since 2008 - to say Labour had it under control is a not supported by the figures!!

Capital builds that can the be sold to first time buyers desperate for a home is an easy way to make a start.
Just having a policy of slash and burn will do only one thing stop folks spending money and drive us into a recession and guess what has happened oh yeah we have done that twice.
I said this right at the outset and I stick by that.
Oh and I got a 'D' in economics which is a damn sight more that Osbourne got.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
All Time Great47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 10 200223 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Aug 17 19:0327th Jul 17 17:56LINK
Milestone Posts
40000
50000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Die Metropole
Signature
"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller

"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

The Voluptuous Manifesto – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:46 am  
To expand on last night's post.

We have an economy that is largely based on the service industries, including finance and retail. That's why, in the case of the latter, quarterly retail figures have become so, so important for the wider national economy that they're now headline news.

Pretty much everyone now agrees that this aspect at least of neo-liberal ideology does not work. We need a more balanced economy, where we are also making more things and finding markets in which to sell them.

This is entirely possible – but it is not going to happen overnight.

So, unless we want the deficit to increase further, we have to look for growth in the economy now. And that, at its simplest, means people having money in their pockets and the confidence to spend it.

So for instance, if you did nothing more than stop the job cuts in the public sector and end the pay freeze that has been in place for some years already, you would see a change in those points.

Thus it is simple logic that, for instance, if you start a massive home building/renovation programme, putting more people in work, increasing business for construction suppliers etc, boosting employment, boosting business for non-construction related businesses (cafes, pubs etc) and so forth.

A suggestion that I heard a couple of months ago from, IIRC, Robert Skidelsky: a project to properly insulate all Britain's homes. It's easy and quick to train people to do such jobs, so you can get it up and running really quickly.

In the longer term, you improve the housing stock, you improve people's lives, you help the environment – and you help people save money.

And you boost the economy.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
All Time Great47951No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 10 200223 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Aug 17 19:0327th Jul 17 17:56LINK
Milestone Posts
40000
50000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Die Metropole
Signature
"You are working for Satan." Kirkstaller

"Dare to know!" Immanuel Kant

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive" Elbert Hubbard

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde

The Voluptuous Manifesto – thoughts on all sorts of stuff.

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:51 am  
cod'ead wrote:
Conversely, there are many who expose the myth that we need to drive down taxes for the super rich to remain.

Britain's biggest taxpayers


Interesting.

And a quote to end it from the lovely Owen Oyston, rapist.

He certainly used to live in a small 'castle' just outside of Lancaster.

I was in the sixth form with two of his daughters, one of whom saw no oddity in complaining to her fellow pupils that the family was poor. After all, she told us in all sincerity, "I don't have hot water in my bathroom!"
cod'ead wrote:
Conversely, there are many who expose the myth that we need to drive down taxes for the super rich to remain.

Britain's biggest taxpayers


Interesting.

And a quote to end it from the lovely Owen Oyston, rapist.

He certainly used to live in a small 'castle' just outside of Lancaster.

I was in the sixth form with two of his daughters, one of whom saw no oddity in complaining to her fellow pupils that the family was poor. After all, she told us in all sincerity, "I don't have hot water in my bathroom!"
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman37704No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 25 200223 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
7th Aug 18 19:077th Aug 18 19:06LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Signature
The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:51 am  
Do a little search on that youtubey thingy for wearetheintruders

They recently managed to gatecrash a little do, laid on by corporates to mark the retirement of Dave Hartnett of HMRC, in thanks for his services to tax avoidance. Comments at the end are very Mitchellesque
Ajw71 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1978No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 23 200619 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Dec 23 20:2714th Dec 19 14:13LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:00 pm  
Hey Cod'ed, did you miss this one? I'm here to help.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19907058

I know how much you like to flag up immoral activity in public office.
Hey Cod'ed, did you miss this one? I'm here to help.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19907058

I know how much you like to flag up immoral activity in public office.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman37704No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 25 200223 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
7th Aug 18 19:077th Aug 18 19:06LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
Signature
The older I get, the better I was

Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."

cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan

Re: Tell us what you really think ... : Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:29 pm  
Ajw71 wrote:
Hey Cod'ed, did you miss this one? I'm here to help.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19907058

I know how much you like to flag up immoral activity in public office.


That's OK Jimmy Savile was a tory
Ajw71 wrote:
Hey Cod'ed, did you miss this one? I'm here to help.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19907058

I know how much you like to flag up immoral activity in public office.


That's OK Jimmy Savile was a tory
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 209 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to The Sin Bin


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
IMG scores
BarnsleyTrin
273
4m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
ComeOnYouUll
4073
20m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Warrior Wing
54
22m
Captains Challenge to be introduced in 2025
Zig
8
38m
Film game
Boss Hog
6016
51m
Salford
Wires71
70
Recent
Accounts
Hudd-Shay
150
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63331
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40865
Recent
Out of contract 2025
Wires71
70
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
55s
Film game
Boss Hog
6016
57s
Captains Challenge for Televised Games in 2025
Cokey
3
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63331
1m
Accounts
Hudd-Shay
150
1m
IMG scores
BarnsleyTrin
273
1m
Salford placed in special measures
supercat
126
1m
Jerome Luai
Zig
21
3m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Wollo-Wollo-
61
4m
2025 Kits
Dave K.
32
4m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Warrior Wing
54
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
All time academy produced Super league era side
rollin thund
1
TODAY
Wigan warriors 2022 away shirt
Wigg'n
3
TODAY
Captains Challenge for Televised Games in 2025
Cokey
3
TODAY
Captains Challenge to be introduced in 2025
Zig
8
TODAY
Rule Changes
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Player Contracts
Trojan Horse
4
TODAY
Fans Forum 12 Dec 11th
Dunkirk Spir
3
TODAY
Laurie Daley returns as NSW origin coach
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
2025 Challenge Cup
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Challenge Cup
BigTime
6
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
ColD
2
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
HU8HFC
29
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
IMG scores
BarnsleyTrin
273
4m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
ComeOnYouUll
4073
20m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Warrior Wing
54
22m
Captains Challenge to be introduced in 2025
Zig
8
38m
Film game
Boss Hog
6016
51m
Salford
Wires71
70
Recent
Accounts
Hudd-Shay
150
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63331
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40865
Recent
Out of contract 2025
Wires71
70
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
55s
Film game
Boss Hog
6016
57s
Captains Challenge for Televised Games in 2025
Cokey
3
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63331
1m
Accounts
Hudd-Shay
150
1m
IMG scores
BarnsleyTrin
273
1m
Salford placed in special measures
supercat
126
1m
Jerome Luai
Zig
21
3m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Wollo-Wollo-
61
4m
2025 Kits
Dave K.
32
4m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
Warrior Wing
54
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
All time academy produced Super league era side
rollin thund
1
TODAY
Wigan warriors 2022 away shirt
Wigg'n
3
TODAY
Captains Challenge for Televised Games in 2025
Cokey
3
TODAY
Captains Challenge to be introduced in 2025
Zig
8
TODAY
Rule Changes
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Player Contracts
Trojan Horse
4
TODAY
Fans Forum 12 Dec 11th
Dunkirk Spir
3
TODAY
Laurie Daley returns as NSW origin coach
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
2025 Challenge Cup
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Challenge Cup
BigTime
6
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
ColD
2
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
HU8HFC
29
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!