Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:46 pm  

Standee wrote:

presumably she can spell it?

Well that told me.
Pedantic as usual eh!

Standee wrote:

there are jobs, plenty of them, just people aren't prepared to change their wage demands and change location, much better to bleat on the internet all day.

I would work for £5 an hour matey.
My wife has a full time job so how in the blue hell do we change location?
The house prices in Hull mean I can easily move wherever I want (Oh wait) and the cost of fuel means communting is so affordable .
So yes there are plenty of jobs as long as you are willing to travel miles to get to them for £5 an hour with child care to pay for.
I can see a slight problem with those figures.
Still at least Standee got to sound in the know again!

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:48 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

Have you tried any of the agencies ?

The company I work for can't keep up with the demand for our product from most of the large staff agencies in the UK, I know its not secure work etc etc but they seem to be booming at the moment and there is a sneaky feeling that they are sucking away all of the genuine job opportunities for temporary placements.

I have the words 'Cannot guarantee work' alongside childcare costs present a slight problem though.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:49 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

Well that told me.
Pedantic as usual eh!

I would work for £5 an hour matey.
My wife has a full time job so how in the blue hell do we change location?
The house prices in Hull mean I can easily move wherever I want (Oh wait) and the cost of fuel means communting is so affordable .
So yes there are plenty of jobs as long as you are willing to travel miles to get to them for £5 an hour with child care to pay for.
I can see a slight problem with those figures.
Still at least Standee got to sound in the know again!

your family doesn't have to change location YOU CAN, I've done it numerous times, go to where the work is.

actually no, you're right, far easier to sit on the PC moaning how the world owes you a living.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:51 pm  

Dally wrote:

There are jobs, certainly in SE England. My son has worked in a supermarket for a couple of years and is due to take up a professional career in January. His girlfriend has a job. He helped get his mate a job where he currently works. I had an email from a youngish chap this morning saying he's handed in his notice and is moving to a firm closer to home.They are examples just from very direct recent personal experience.

So I am to go and get a job in SE England which means I need to get digs (extra cost) as my wife has a fulltime job?
Or perhaps she can quit her job so we can all move so I can work in a supermarket?

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:51 pm  

Standee wrote:

your family doesn't have to change location YOU CAN, I've done it numerous times, go to where the work is...

And how did your wife and children - your family life - work then?

I appreciate that family is only a sound bite these days, so I'm curious about your own experience.

Did you find that you and your wife's combined incomes could cover additional accommodation, for instance? Did your readiness to accept lower wages impact at all on your wife and children?

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:52 pm  

Standee wrote:

but that is the thing, the majority of the perpetually unemployed think they should be able to get a job just around the corner from their house, on hours to suit them at a minimum of £22k a year

it's time we removed benefits for those that can work but wont, and give the money saved to those that would work but genuinelt cant.

Frankly, that is pure bollax.

Straight out of the Daily Mail pure bollax.

Your starter for ten - your definition of "genuinely can't work" ?

How genuine would "genuinely can't" have to be if offered a £15k job in, say, Northampton, when the poster in question lives in Hull, has a home to pay for but probably can't sell right now, has a wife in a job in Hull and a child to pay childcare for especially when one of those parents will be working away in Northampton for five days a week.

I worked away from home for ten years so I'm well used to it but I was single and not a home owner then, it works for some but there is a point where you add up the sums and it really isn't a go-er - you can't call those people "Can work but won't" simply because they don't take any random job anywhere.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:54 pm  

Mintball wrote:

And how did your wife and children - your family life - work then?

I appreciate that family is only a sound bite these days, so I'm curious about your own experience.

Did you find that you and your wife's combined incomes could cover additional accommodation, for instance? Did your readiness to accept lower wages impact at all on your wife and children?

I dont have kids, if people were a bit more realistic when procreating we'd be a lot better off, a lot of people have kids that really can't afford them, and then expect the rest of us to bail them out.

I'm not getting drawn into this again, I did it with Damo and copped a ban for having an opinion.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:54 pm  

Standee wrote:

presumably she can spell it?

there are jobs, plenty of them, just people aren't prepared to change their wage demands and change location, much better to bleat on the internet all day.

There are jobs all right but unfortunately, there are between five and six times as many unemployed as there are jobs.
Obviously, the four or five who don't get each job are feckless layabouts.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:56 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

I have the words 'Cannot guarantee work' alongside childcare costs present a slight problem though.

I know, its not a perfect solution, but in my business I can see that agencies do some very hard selling to companies and they definitely attract opportunities that may otherwise have been full time permanent jobs.

On the other hand I do know that agency sales staff are always being pressed by their clients to send "X,Y & Z" if X,Y & Z have impressed the employer, its definitely a foot in the door.

Re: State Sponsored Slavery : Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:57 pm  

Standee wrote:

I dont have kids, if people were a bit more realistic when procreating we'd be a lot better off, a lot of people have kids that really can't afford them, and then expect the rest of us to bail them out...

So a couple who are working shouldn't start a family because one of them might be laid off from the job they're in at some point in the future?

Standee - that's just crass.