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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:33 pm  
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They can't bear to see a recovery under a Conservative chancellor.


Let me know when we get back to the position we were in when this shambles got their hands on it.

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Everything Tory is bad remember.


1,800 posts and finally you get it. Congratulations.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:36 pm  
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:lol: :lol:

A troll because you posted a piece of news!! How dare you post such inflammatory statements!!


Another cheerleader that doesn't know the difference between a forecast and a solid fact.

:lol: :lol: indeed.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:52 pm  
I am neither a Tory or Labour, most on here are too entrenched in their belief of who is right and who is wrong, I think Blair(on the home front) had us going in the right direction, Brown was an absolute disaster and considering the mess the Tories inherited I think they're doing okay.
I'd love to see a few political neutrals, with all the facts telling me where we actually are in terms of growth and the direction we are heading. The trouble is everyone is pulling out the facts which suit their argument and ignoring the facts which harm their point.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:05 pm  
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Now the IMF are predicting the UK economy will be the fastest growing of the G7 developed nations this year. They have revised their January estimate of 2.4% upwards to 2.9% - ahead of the US. Good news.

Another right wing apologist who may be able to answer the question because a previous apologist hadn't a clue or the question confused him/her.
Which economy?
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:06 am  
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I'd love to see a few political neutrals, with all the facts telling me where we actually are in terms of growth and the direction we are heading. The trouble is everyone is pulling out the facts which suit their argument and ignoring the facts which harm their point.


'tis always the case for politics is a world of lies and manipulation - it has to be so in order to keep your job.

From the frontline that I see on a day-to-day basis, and ignoring all of the flim-flam of media reporting and political crowing I see businesses more confident this year than last and more so than the previous five however those businesses are very different organisations to the ones that they were five years ago mainly because the recession of these past five or six years - I make no apology for using the word recession outside of its defined political meaning for businesses have seen markets and turnover recede over that time - the recession years have given them the upper hand in wage control.

Very few employees have had regular wage rises, many are still in a worse place income-wise than they were in 2007, so although anyone will repeat the phrase "confident" back to you when asked about employment prospects, few will tell you that they are more wealthy now than they were, many will tell you that they are still worried about employment contracts, many will now be working alongside colleagues who have little job security or who are employed not by the business but by employment agencies - THIS has been the biggest change since 2007 and is simply the result of the boot being firmly on the foot of the employer, it will be interesting to see what happens in future years as employment increases and employees can start to negotiate better terms again.

As for next years election, throw away the policy manifestos, anyone who believes a manifesto booklet after the 2010 election farce is a fool who should be locked away in an asylum, the next election will be won on TV and in the newspapers and in that respect the Tory party hold every single card bar one, their only fear will be to keep them all onside and to gain enough seats for a working majority.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:30 am  
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Don't you like good news?

Yes I do, but since when is a prediction good news?
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:47 pm  
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Let me know when we get back to the position we were in when this shambles got their hands on it.



Your post seems to imply the economy was in a good state in 2010. Poor trolling this.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:09 pm  
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Your post seems to imply the economy was in a good state in 2010. Poor trolling this.


It was growing in 2010, albeit slowly but Gideon has seen fit to halt that growth in the name of austerity. GDP is still 1.4% below the 2007 peak, whereas US GDP is now 5% higher over the same period.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:24 pm  
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Is a troll someone who implies that a forecast or prediction is bound to happen?


And who said it was bound to happen? I just reported the good news old boy! There are some out there that feed on bad news.
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Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:28 pm  
Charlie Sierra wrote:
Let me know when we get back to the position we were in when this shambles got their hands on it.



I think you would have been more accurate to say "when this lot got their hands on the shambles left by the last lot" :lol:
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