Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:46 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

As a sub contractor I am well aware of cost overruns. I agree also that most major projects always finish up over budget. However it’s the placing of contracts on the conference Centre that is under investigation. Also the companies involved are linked to certain trade Union leaders.
My point is dodgy deals aren’t exclusive to the Tory party.. Almost forgot Peter Mandelson ,seem to remember him mixed up in some dubious loans.

It's an interesting one.
NOBODY should be above the law and if there are underhand deals or "dodgy" favouritism going on then, those involved should be brought to account.
Sadly, this doesn't seem to apply if you are part of the current government or their friends and family.

Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:03 pm  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

Dude. Just because SP has embarrassed you for the 60th time, there is no reason to throw a hissy fit at me lmao

Who is me?

Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:08 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

As a sub contractor I am well aware of cost overruns. I agree also that most major projects always finish up over budget. However it’s the placing of contracts on the conference Centre that is under investigation. Also the companies involved are linked to certain trade Union leaders.
My point is dodgy deals aren’t exclusive to the Tory party.. Almost forgot Peter Mandelson ,seem to remember him mixed up in some dubious loans.

Mandelson wasn't taking money from a donor. And he resigned.

Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:58 pm  

And now there's talk for a £2k pay rise for MP's.

[Mild Rover]

Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:18 pm  

RoyBoy29 wrote:

And now there's talk for a £2k pay rise for MP's.

It probably won’t be a popular opinion, but if it was accompanied by better policed expenses system, I’d be okay with more than that. That’s probably only inflation.

Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:50 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Mandelson wasn't taking money from a donor. And he resigned.

As per normal you misread my posting. Under no circumstances am I defending the Tory government, they are a pretty shabby bunch. Mandelson in fact resigned on 2 occasions, then obviously went on to make a fortune in the EU. Likewise with Blair the warmongering specimen. I am merely making the obvious point that the tories haven’t got exclusive rights to sleaze .
Any thoughts on Ian Lavery mp ? . I won’t venture down the road of how many labour politicians seem to end up the wrong side of the law. Step forward Claudia Webb and take a bow. Anyway I thought you would be rejoicing all this debacle should lead to a labour victory at the next election .

Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:57 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

As per normal you misread my posting. Under no circumstances am I defending the Tory government, they are a pretty shabby bunch. Mandelson in fact resigned on 2 occasions, then obviously went on to make a fortune in the EU. Likewise with Blair the warmongering specimen. I am merely making the obvious point that the tories haven’t got exclusive rights to sleaze .
Any thoughts on Ian Lavery mp ? . I won’t venture down the road of how many labour politicians seem to end up the wrong side of the law. Step forward Claudia Webb and take a bow. Anyway I thought you would be rejoicing all this debacle should lead to a labour victory at the next election .

Labour are less bad, a lot, lot less bad, than the Tories. But it's hardly a reason for celebration.
It will just be relief at getting this increasingly authoritarian, culture-war obsessed, lying and corrupt lot out.

Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:29 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Labour are less bad, a lot, lot less bad, than the Tories. But it's hardly a reason for celebration.
It will just be relief at getting this increasingly authoritarian, culture-war obsessed, lying and corrupt lot out.

Good grief I am in total shock, I actually agree with you.

Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:40 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

It probably won’t be a popular opinion, but if it was accompanied by better policed expenses system, I’d be okay with more than that. That’s probably only inflation.

Is this Deja vu. there was a similar situation following the expenses scandal and right now, it seems like its the Tories very much pleasing themselves and trying to get away with whatever thet think possible, all seemingly just following their leader.
Ultimately, the MP's are public servants and broadly speaking, they should receive the same level of pay increase as the rest of the public sector.
I find it ridiculous that they have their own "independent" body which recommends their pay increases but, they can then issue a public sector pay freeze.
Seems like more double standards ???

Re: the "return" of Tory sleaze : Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:44 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Good grief I am in total shock, I actually agree with you.

So do I but don't tell him.