Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:43 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

That would help but even with the army helping out I can't see the beginning of any major improvement in the situation this side of April. Trusts up and down the country are advertising for vaccinators but there aren't the people with the requisite expertise available. The few that have had the Pfizer vacc have only had small amounts. The admin of getting people vaccinated is incredibly laborious too. It's not just a case of jabbing someone in the arm as I'm sure you know. It can take you a couple of hours to do a dozen or so people.

I think the government need to manage expectations better - the PM has over promised since this began and by the summer people will be desperate not to go through all this again.

Yes, after April I would reckon.

Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:45 am  

Given there's only 85 people in England and Wales that actually have had an alleged covid infection in week 52, 50 in week 51, (I'm currently checking the governments notifiable diseases documents) why do we need any insanely expensive and invasive drug and all the rest of the BS when it's clear people for the most part are not dying from covid 19 and that the governments numbers are a criminal lie of epic proportions.
And most of the small number of deaths are from their underlying health condition not a virus. Underlying health condition is the only lawful way to codify a death.

Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:41 am  

48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote: Given there's only 85 people in England and Wales that actually have had an alleged covid infection in week 52, 50 in week 51, (I'm currently checking the governments notifiable diseases documents) why do we need any insanely expensive and invasive drug and all the rest of the BS when it's clear people for the most part are not dying from covid 19 and that the governments numbers are a criminal lie of epic proportions. And most of the small number of deaths are from their underlying health condition not a virus. Underlying health condition is the only lawful way to codify a death. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-55350794

48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote: Given there's only 85 people in England and Wales that actually have had an alleged covid infection in week 52, 50 in week 51, (I'm currently checking the governments notifiable diseases documents) why do we need any insanely expensive and invasive drug and all the rest of the BS when it's clear people for the most part are not dying from covid 19 and that the governments numbers are a criminal lie of epic proportions. And most of the small number of deaths are from their underlying health condition not a virus. Underlying health condition is the only lawful way to codify a death. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-55350794

[Bullseye]

Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:48 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-55350794

Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:26 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-55350794

read and weep. here are actual infections, not cases, as per the .gov website.
I guess tin foil hat wearers like yourself just believe everything the criminal government tell you, I hope you get your poison sooner rather than later then you can just carry on with your pathetic head in the sand life!

[Durham Giant]

Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:54 am  

48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote: read and weep. here are actual infections, not cases, as per the .gov website. I guess tin foil hat wearers like yourself just believe everything the criminal government tell you, I hope you get your poison sooner rather than later then you can just carry on with your pathetic head in the sand life! I think you Will find that the information you have quoted details records right at the outbreak of Covid and since then reporting has been amended significantly as it spread and is now recorded differently. See the link below for details https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus ... the-public

48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote: read and weep. here are actual infections, not cases, as per the .gov website. I guess tin foil hat wearers like yourself just believe everything the criminal government tell you, I hope you get your poison sooner rather than later then you can just carry on with your pathetic head in the sand life! I think you Will find that the information you have quoted details records right at the outbreak of Covid and since then reporting has been amended significantly as it spread and is now recorded differently. See the link below for details https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus ... the-public

Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:54 pm  

Why do I think that Boris is once again winging it with the idea to leave a three month gap between each dose. The manufacturer’s indicated that two doses are required within three weeks.
I hope they know what they are doing because no other country believes this to be true and based on previous form I doubt Boris has a clue.

Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:31 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

I think you Will find that the information you have quoted details records right at the outbreak of Covid

Are you sure? The header states 'number of cases reported in week 52 of 2020'

[Durham Giant]

Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:03 pm  

MatthewTrin wrote:

Are you sure? The header states 'number of cases reported in week 52 of 2020'

Seems to be an anomaly as this is when GPS were advised to report it at the beginning of the year. When it became clear it was a pandemic reporting went through PHE. Rather than through GPS saying someone may have this new virus

Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig : Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:06 pm  

Durham Giant wrote: Seems to be an anomaly as this is when GPS were advised to report it at the beginning of the year. When it became clear it was a pandemic reporting went through PHE. Rather than through GPS saying someone may have this new virus All what is being described as SARS COV2 has to be reported by ALL medical persons, a positive test is NOT an infection, it cannot be, it's a diagnostic tool. Thus causative agents that cause infection have to be reported, that means there is hardly any actual infections, fewer than 13,900 up until week 53 which includes part of January.. week 53 had only 37 true reports of cases with a causative agent that are described as SARS COV2 (which was 'isolated' described by using a computer algorithm so doesn't truly exist as a 'novel' virus as you're just filing in sequences into a batch of other RNA that we know exists in every human being on the planet. The numbers being used by the government and media are a lie, and always have been, they are not and cannot be infections or deaths of/From etc, they are cases which are meaningless crud, the R number and the deaths are being criminally based upon this BS to force through medical treatments, remove human rights, garner more control over the populace and much more disgusting actions that only benefit the elites and harm the plebs! First week of December 2019 55.8% of the primary care influenza tests were infectious, had actual live infection, in secondary care it was just under 19%, this can be found on the ILI weekly report. 2019 was a very 'soft' flu season. Live infection of the alleged novel virus are 0.55% of the positive cases, this aligns with the lab testing in France which found lower than 3% of live material at 35x amplification cycles of the 250,000+ tests they'd done, UK government does somewhere between 40-45 cycles hence the more you amplify the higher the false positives, so with that high number of of cycles the false positives of the 'cases' are nearer 100% of the cases. Which again is what will happen when the RNA you are looking for is there in all humans, at circa 60 cycles everyone on the planet would test positive. That there is a 90-96% efficacy claim for the 'vaccine' - it cannot legally be called a vaccine as it simply isn't, it's basically a more insidious version of Tamiflu, is just dumb science, you've actually a lower efficacy rate than the actual false positive rate of 'positives' and the medical treatment doesn't nor cannot stop infection/transmission nor indeed prevent death/hospitalisation, yet more lies. here is the week 53 NOIDS report https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 3-2020.pdf

Durham Giant wrote: Seems to be an anomaly as this is when GPS were advised to report it at the beginning of the year. When it became clear it was a pandemic reporting went through PHE. Rather than through GPS saying someone may have this new virus All what is being described as SARS COV2 has to be reported by ALL medical persons, a positive test is NOT an infection, it cannot be, it's a diagnostic tool. Thus causative agents that cause infection have to be reported, that means there is hardly any actual infections, fewer than 13,900 up until week 53 which includes part of January.. week 53 had only 37 true reports of cases with a causative agent that are described as SARS COV2 (which was 'isolated' described by using a computer algorithm so doesn't truly exist as a 'novel' virus as you're just filing in sequences into a batch of other RNA that we know exists in every human being on the planet. The numbers being used by the government and media are a lie, and always have been, they are not and cannot be infections or deaths of/From etc, they are cases which are meaningless crud, the R number and the deaths are being criminally based upon this BS to force through medical treatments, remove human rights, garner more control over the populace and much more disgusting actions that only benefit the elites and harm the plebs! First week of December 2019 55.8% of the primary care influenza tests were infectious, had actual live infection, in secondary care it was just under 19%, this can be found on the ILI weekly report. 2019 was a very 'soft' flu season. Live infection of the alleged novel virus are 0.55% of the positive cases, this aligns with the lab testing in France which found lower than 3% of live material at 35x amplification cycles of the 250,000+ tests they'd done, UK government does somewhere between 40-45 cycles hence the more you amplify the higher the false positives, so with that high number of of cycles the false positives of the 'cases' are nearer 100% of the cases. Which again is what will happen when the RNA you are looking for is there in all humans, at circa 60 cycles everyone on the planet would test positive. That there is a 90-96% efficacy claim for the 'vaccine' - it cannot legally be called a vaccine as it simply isn't, it's basically a more insidious version of Tamiflu, is just dumb science, you've actually a lower efficacy rate than the actual false positive rate of 'positives' and the medical treatment doesn't nor cannot stop infection/transmission nor indeed prevent death/hospitalisation, yet more lies. here is the week 53 NOIDS report https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 3-2020.pdf