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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:46 pm  
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Killing your own as a means to an end and to control the masses is hardly new, being going on for thousands of years, what makes you think those in power are any different to those that were back then and at any other point in history since?
What aspect of free thinking scares you?


Twitter has given more of the conspiracy theorist lunatics a voice, and has had "False Flag" becoming more prevalent.

No aspect of free thinking scares me. What does scare me is that howl at the moon conspiracy theorists who find hoaxes in everything without one scrap of actual real evidence. Reading these websites that claim "absolute proof of a hoax" is hilarious. One example, The Boston Bombing-absolute proof " There was little or no blood coming from the alleged double amputee, it must have been a fake." However, it is widely agreed from top medical professionals, both Military and none Military that amputation suffered via blast trauma (Such as a bomb) Would very often cause the blood vessels to cauterise or if this doesn't occur shock causes the blood vessels to constrict or even cut off blood flow. But wait.................. maybe their all on in it, maybe ordinary people have been recruited by the NWO just to make things up in the case of this happening. Wow!

And before you get precious Mugwump and refer lecture me about Mental Health. Wasn't it you that said to someone on the Saints page. " You are mentally ill and I can't tolerate your madness anymore" ?
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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:00 pm  
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Twitter has given more of the conspiracy theorist lunatics a voice, and has had "False Flag" becoming more prevalent.


The internet and social media in general.
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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:16 pm  
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Twitter has given more of the conspiracy theorist lunatics a voice, and has had "False Flag" becoming more prevalent.

No aspect of free thinking scares me. What does scare me is that howl at the moon conspiracy theorists who find hoaxes in everything without one scrap of actual real evidence. Reading these websites that claim "absolute proof of a hoax" is hilarious. One example, The Boston Bombing-absolute proof " There was little or no blood coming from the alleged double amputee, it must have been a fake." However, it is widely agreed from top medical professionals, both Military and none Military that amputation suffered via blast trauma (Such as a bomb) Would very often cause the blood vessels to cauterise or if this doesn't occur shock causes the blood vessels to constrict or even cut off blood flow. But wait.................. maybe their all on in it, maybe ordinary people have been recruited by the NWO just to make things up in the case of this happening. Wow!

And before you get precious Mugwump and refer lecture me about Mental Health. Wasn't it you that said to someone on the Saints page. " You are mentally ill and I can't tolerate your madness anymore" ?


Don't recall ever suggesting I was an innocent party. And if I said it a thousand times it wouldn't make the complaint any less valid. But you know this. Which makes me wonder why you bothered in the first place ...
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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:38 pm  
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However, it is widely agreed from top medical professionals, both Military and none Military that amputation suffered via blast trauma (Such as a bomb) Would very often cause the blood vessels to cauterise or if this doesn't occur shock causes the blood vessels to constrict or even cut off blood flow.


Leaving all other questions aside - what you are saying here is that "top medical professionals" agree that an explosive blast may or may not cauterise an amputated limb and stem the flow of blood.

With this kind of conviction who needs ambiguity, eh?

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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:07 pm  
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Twitter has given more of the conspiracy theorist lunatics a voice, and has had "False Flag" becoming more prevalent.

No aspect of free thinking scares me. What does scare me is that howl at the moon conspiracy theorists who find hoaxes in everything without one scrap of actual real evidence. Reading these websites that claim "absolute proof of a hoax" is hilarious



Research,, research, research. why do people post drivel before looking at the overwhelming synchronised evidence which ALL false flagged terrorist events carry the same DNA with the same modus operandi. It’s so blatantly obvious they’re planned and so coincidental in their making. Here’s a series of terrorist attacks that took place AT THE SAME TIME and IN THE SAME WAY as official "drills" were being conducted by governmental institutions or companies affiliated to the government.

During the 9/11 attacks, the US Air Force, NORAD was conducting a "simulation" where terrorists hijackers had taken over passenger jets in order to fly them into buildings. Also, for several years prior to the 9/11 events, the U.S. defence agency conducted drills using REAL AIRCRAFT simulating terrorist attacks crashing jets into buildings, including the twin towers and the Pentagon. On the morning of 9/11, 5 war games and terror drills were being conducted by several U.S. defence agencies, including one live fly exercise using REAL planes. Drills also apparently included the injection of false radar blips onto the screens of air traffic controllers.

Simulations of a terrorist attack were also undergoing in 2005 in London 7/7 , when the actual attacks took place: On the afternoon and evening of 7th July 2005, information came to light about a private company running a terror rehearsal operation in London at the time that real explosions were reported to have occurred on the transport network. These revelations came not from an anonymous source but instead from the Managing Director (Peter Power) of the private firm running the terror rehearsal operation.

During the Sandy Hoax massacre, the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA conducted an exercise entitled: Needs for children in disasters at the same day, 12/14/2012, and in the same State as the Sandy Hook events!

The Oslo, Norway, bomb attacks in Oslo, a powerful bomb went off in or near the building which houses the office of the Prime Minister. Exactly as we would expect, special anti-terror police had been drilling setting off bombs in a nearby part of the Norwegian capital in advance, specifically during 2010. The public had not been informed in advance, but found out what was happening when they began hearing bombs in the opera house district, less than a kilometre away from the prime minister’s office which was attacked on Friday. Armed police were seen in the area around the opera house in Oslo, and violent explosions could be heard over large parts of the city. No one knew that this was all a matter of practice. The Information Section of the Oslo police deeply regretted that the public was not made aware of the seemingly dramatic exercise. It was the emergency squad, the national police special unit against terrorism, which was conducting a drill in the cordoned off area at Bjørvika pier.
According to a press release from the police, nearly a day after the exercise, the drill consisted of training in the controlled detonation of explosive charges. The exercise will continue for the rest of Wednesday night and a few more explosions are expected. The exercise followed a familiar pattern for all anti-terror forces around the world: The men lowered themselves down from the ceiling and into through the window that had just been blown out, while they fired hand their weapons.

The 2004 Madrid train bombing. A few hours before the Madrid Bombings, NATO carried out a terrorism exercise in Madrid.
Former Secretary General of NATO, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, described it as a "coincidence" that, on 4 March 2004, there was an anti-terrorist exercise (CMX-04) in Madrid, finishing just a few hours before the bombings. The NATO counter-terrorism exercise involved an imagined attack which would kill 200 people. This number is very close to the number of fatalities that occurred in the actual Madrid Bombings.

There's many many more if you RESEARCH, Paris Friday morning being the latest to have this copy cat modus operandi event. It's easy just join the dots. Now if you think all this is conjecture or coincidence I suggest you do what Mugwump said and do your own RESEARCH which in the basis of your post you clearly haven’t.
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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:47 pm  
Just gonna grab me pad and pen and nip to Paris. Mr Hollandaise a few questions.

1. Who did it?
2. Bullshit you did it you friend! Admit it? Please?
3. No I'm not qualified not trained in this type of questioning or research, admit it you did it!!
4. I'm just gonna look at meme's and coincidence on the internet until I find what agrees with my opinion. Admit you did it!! I take by your baffled expression an expression of guilt. Case closed. I SAID CASE CLOSED!
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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:53 pm  
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Twitter has given more of the conspiracy theorist lunatics a voice, and has had "False Flag" becoming more prevalent.

No aspect of free thinking scares me. What does scare me is that howl at the moon conspiracy theorists who find hoaxes in everything without one scrap of actual real evidence. Reading these websites that claim "absolute proof of a hoax" is hilarious. One example, The Boston Bombing-absolute proof " There was little or no blood coming from the alleged double amputee, it must have been a fake." However, it is widely agreed from top medical professionals, both Military and none Military that amputation suffered via blast trauma (Such as a bomb) Would very often cause the blood vessels to cauterise or if this doesn't occur shock causes the blood vessels to constrict or even cut off blood flow. But wait.................. maybe their all on in it, maybe ordinary people have been recruited by the NWO just to make things up in the case of this happening. Wow!

And before you get precious Mugwump and refer lecture me about Mental Health. Wasn't it you that said to someone on the Saints page. " You are mentally ill and I can't tolerate your madness anymore" ?


we obviously have differing views on the matter but I can can tell you from experience (Of serving in the army) that the explosion in Boston was little more than a large thunderflash.
Firstly it was impossible for the injuries that were shown to have happened from this so called 'bomb', the collateral damage was completely and utterly disproportionate to the injuries shown (as in the collateral damage represented exactly what a thundeflash might do), additionally the injuries were massively inconsistant with the alleged type of device and even then those with these so called devastating injuries showed no other signs of the effects anywhere else on their bodies, none of them...not one! There was so much in that one event that didn't add up, didn't make a jot of sense, when people are in stress/panic/scary/shock situations they react in a very predictable way and the way more than just one or two people reacted was so far beyond the norm it cannot be ignored.

I've not mentioned mental health so I've no idea why you directed that at me in your reply, what I have said based on your response is that it would seem that you aren't open to the possibility, as remote as it might seem, that something else is going on here aside from what is being fed to us.
That in itself suggests you aren't capable of free thinking, that you accept what has being served to you and that is enough, to not be able to think outside what certain groups tell you without the ability to look objectively and at hard facts, logic and a certain amount of suspicion.
History does show us that leaders from various factions across the world are happy to sacrifice their own, to induce fear on the back of wanting to keep power/keep the minions under control and to slake their greed.

By and large human beings are easy to predict, sure there are a few outliers but what is happening now has being totally predictable but people such as yourself either don't want to know why or just aren't open to understanding why.
good luck to you is all I can say.
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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:49 pm  
Germany v Holland called off because of a security threat. Ambulance full of explosives apparently found near the stadium.

Waiting for photographic proof though before i believe it ;)
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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:50 pm  
Rlfans is no different to society in general. 99.9999999% of the population only believe what is spoon fed to them by the media, which in turn is spoon fed to them by the government. The media are puppets for the government.

Once you start doing your own research, you will realise there is just as much credible evidence out there to suggest both sides of an argument could be correct (within reason, no one actually believes the earth is a hexagon or that the paris shootings didnt actually happen). The only difference is, the media are loathe to report anything that goes against the government for fear of losing their spaces in the oval office press office. That would be bad for business.

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Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:30 pm  
Someone earlier in the thread summed up my thoughts pretty well. Some things are a conspiracy, most are not. I agree that almost everything in the media needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. I also accept that it's not beyond the realms of possibility that events like this could be orchestrated by government. However, most of the "evidence" presented by the foil hat brigade tends to be tenuous at best and is often just made up completely.

Besides, if our options are to carry on as per or rise up, well I think I'd rather take my chances in the matrix.
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