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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:13 pm  
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What was the general consensus in this country pre NHS about bringing it in, and in other countries that have a National health service?


You have to remember that in 1948 there was a huge swing to a socialist government, everyone had expected Churchill to be elected as a formality but after six years of war, loss of life and demolition of huge swathes of inner cities there was a dire need for social housing - rented property was the norm for working class folk and the percentage of those who would call themselves "working class" to middle or upper class was huge, far greater than I suspect it would be today, the main aspiration to that trenche of voters was a rented house, a job and if a political party had promised all of that plus a health service for all, free at the point of delivery from cradle to grave then you can imagine that that really would be the cherry on the cake.

Churchill didn't know what hit him and neither did the Americans who immediately shat themselves at the thought of those billions of dollars of war loans being owed to them by a government that looked liek it was turning communist.
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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:26 pm  
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What was the general consensus in this country pre NHS about bringing it in, and in other countries that have a National health service?


To add to what Jerry has posted, after Lloyd George's post-WWI promise of "a land fit for heroes" became a tragic farce, there was a definite mood that such a betrayal would not happen again.

IIRC, there had been soldiers' parliaments taking place during the last days of the war and the immediate aftermath, and a great deal of political education.
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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:53 pm  
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What was the general consensus in this country pre NHS about bringing it in, and in other countries that have a National health service?


Most doctors weren't in favour of it simply because they couldn't see the sense in getting paid by the government to see lots of people was worth more to them than only seeing those people who could afford a doctor and even then being at the end of a long queue of people to pay.
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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:30 am  
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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:38 am  


At least he was honest, even if his answer did belong in Victorian times.


At least he was honest, even if his answer did belong in Victorian times.
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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:22 am  
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At least he was honest, even if his answer did belong in Victorian times.


He certainly was honest but as the veteran said Romney wouldn't be interested in a conversation about it.
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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:00 am  
Found this funny

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If you asked Mitt Romney to go buy a round of drinks and gave him $50, he'd come back from the bar with the drinks for everyone, but he wouldn't bring you back any change. If you asked Barack Obama to go buy a round of drinks and gave him $50, he'd tell you to keep the $50, this round is on him. That's why I'm voting for Barack Obama. Because Mitt Romney would keep my f---ing change because he's a greedy selfish sack of shady poop and why the f--k was I even at a bar with him? And oh, that's right, he's Mormon, he doesn't even f---ing DRINK. Jeezus H. Crisco, WHY DOES THERE EVEN NEED TO BE AN ELECTION!?!?

Does anyone actually think the rich teetotaler douchebag guy is better for the U.S.A.? No thanks.

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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:40 am  
Did anyone hear Clinton's speech about Romney's proposed military spending?

Which religion sorry country does he want to wipe out?
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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:20 pm  
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Good to see that the US doesn't have a monopoly on christian nutjobs. This guy is Australian I believe:

Graeme Bell


All that skiing sent him over the edge.
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Re: OBAMA v ROMNEY : Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:37 pm  
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Did anyone hear Clinton's speech about Romney's proposed military spending?

Which religion sorry country does he want to wipe out?


The moron religion?

Or is that his?
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