Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:12 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

Ahhh! I see. So we can now blame all thuggery on the right. Clever.

Not in this case but, the far right are guilty of plenty, as I'm sure you know. The BNP and National Front etc.
The attempt at humour clearly passed you by.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:14 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

And he’s not even that clever!

Yet, here we are and Boris Johnson is still Prime Minister. Stupidity, selfishness and dishonesty are not always major barriers to political success. Trump and Johnson have made them assets though, finding a following among a surprisingly large demographic who admire and revel in their vices, and call it patriotism. If pride and hope for shared prosperity and wellbeing are dead, at least we can have some trolling lulz. Here’s to the end of our nation state and the rise of Rees-Moggian sovereign citizens… it is a very weird breed of English Nationalism.

Both Johnson and Trump arrived in power because the opposition on both sides of the Atlantic were absolutely woeful.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:38 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Ask Sue Gray and the Met Police

But I'm asking you. It's not that difficult a question, even for yourself.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:52 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

But I'm asking you. It's not that difficult a question, even for yourself.

Oh Dear
Well if you insist I happen to agree with Sue Gray and the Met Police, who do you agree with

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:05 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Both Johnson and Trump arrived in power because the opposition on both sides of the Atlantic were absolutely woeful.

So how come Trump departed power so soon , despite a very weak opposition party?

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:24 pm  

Superblue wrote:

So how come Trump departed power so soon , despite a very weak opposition party?

You may care to read my posting again, I mentioned the fact of both trump and Johnson gaining power.
I never commented on remaining in power, however since you mentioned it, probably the main reason trump failed was he was unable to fulfill a fair proportion of his election promises. Johnson is fast approaching the same scenario with his so called red wall MPs. Labour looks like winning the next election, purely on the basis of Tory incompetence. However some time in the next few months they will have to come up with some kind of policy’s to attract the voting public. At the moment they are on a crest of a wave highlighting the stupidity of the tories. Be interesting to see how labour perform when the full spotlight of the media focuses on them.

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:40 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Oh Dear
Well if you insist I happen to agree with Sue Gray and the Met Police, who do you agree with

Sue Gray. Can't agree with the Met, AFAIK they haven't arrested or fined anyone yet

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:07 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

Sue Gray. Can't agree with the Met, AFAIK they haven't arrested or fined anyone yet

Well that’s because the Met are at the investigation stage, you don’t agree the Met should be investigating Boris’s tories 12 lockdown party breaches?

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:10 pm  

Superblue wrote:

Well that’s because the Met are at the investigation stage, you don’t agree the Met should be investigating Boris’s tories 12 lockdown party breaches?

Yes they should investigate

[Mild Rover]

Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up : Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:44 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Both Johnson and Trump arrived in power because the opposition on both sides of the Atlantic were absolutely woeful.

Some people voted for them with enthusiasm, not even despite but because of what they are. People are disillusioned and bitter, and somebody tearing up conventions is cathartic for them even if it is destructive. Low self worth on a national scale.