Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:41 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

God created free will. Sin and death are consequences of our disobedience.

Sin, and death, and viruses (which are also living organisms), and disease, and the Giants Causeway - what do the Creationists think of your theories ?

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:43 pm  

Standee wrote:

you're an idiot, and you appear to be in check

and I am giving your spiteful nice person of a god a chance, prove his existence through me, in a public place, can't be too much to ask, I mean, this guy (white, with a beard, from Jerusalem, with the ability to impregnate women without consent (which makes him a rapist) who wiped out mankind because they displeased him (which makes him a murderer) and then flooded the planet (but he didn't FACTS tell us that))

whilst I'm waiting I'll read about Scientology, at least their fantasy is interesting.

We'll have to compare notes Standee, I'm reading about the Mormon's they're loving mental.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:47 pm  

Sheldon wrote:

We'll have to compare notes Standee, I'm reading about the Mormon's they're loving mental.

scientology appears to come from a giant intergallatic battle, whereas mormons can have more than one wife, I reckon laser guns and warp drives are much better than having multiple women you resent!

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:48 pm  

Standee wrote:

you're an idiot, and you appear to be in check

and I am giving your spiteful nice person of a god a chance, prove his existence through me, in a public place, can't be too much to ask, I mean, this guy (white, with a beard, from Jerusalem, with the ability to impregnate women without consent (which makes him a rapist) who wiped out mankind because they displeased him (which makes him a murderer) and then flooded the planet (but he didn't FACTS tell us that))

whilst I'm waiting I'll read about Scientology, at least their fantasy is interesting.

God will NOT be tested.

Do not test the LORD your God as you did at Massah. Deuteronomy 6:16

Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test. Luke 4:12

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:49 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

Sin, and death, and viruses (which are also living organisms), and disease, and the Giants Causeway - what do the Creationists think of your theories ?

Viruses and disease did not exist before the Fall. Neither did sin, obviously.

I'm a Creationist.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:54 pm  

Standee wrote:

scientology appears to come from a giant intergallatic battle, whereas mormons can have more than one wife, I reckon laser guns and warp drives are much better than having multiple women you resent!

It could well be, but what about the underpants?

What a selling point!

And of course that America is a great holiday place when you've just died.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:55 pm  

kirkstaller wrote:

Viruses and disease did not exist before the Fall. Neither did sin, obviously.

I'm a Creationist.

How can that be if you believe that your God did not create everything.

You have to admit that for your God to have created what he believed to be the perfect sentient being in The Garden of Eden, it didn't take very long before an even more powerful deity came along and fekked things up good and proper for him.

All that was needed was the power of thought and BOOM! sin was born, something that your God had never even thought of and not constructed any built in defences against.

Shortly after that along came disease and virus, living organisms so small that your God just never saw them coming and suddenly his beautiful creations are dying all over the place.

Good job that sin had come along in the first place because Adam and Eve wouldn't have lasted long against the other deity's far more powerful forces.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:26 am  

Funnily enough last weekend there was an old BBC documentary on telly here called "Did Darwin kill God". If you haven't seen it. Have a look. I notice it's on the net.

Conor Cunningham discusses biblical interpretations and how 20th Century American creationists manufactured the tussles between science and faith being "discussed" on here.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:31 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Funnily enough last weekend there was an old BBC documentary on telly here called "Did Darwin kill God". If you haven't seen it. Have a look. I notice it's on the net.

Conor Cunningham discusses biblical interpretations and how 20th Century American creationists manufactured the tussles between science and faith being "discussed" on here.

On ABC?

They've had some really good programs on recently, some of they're day time debates are top draw.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:36 am  

kirkstaller wrote:

God will NOT be tested.

Do not test the LORD your God as you did at Massah. Deuteronomy 6:16

Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test. Luke 4:12

ah right, what a quality clause, "don't ask God to prove himself, because he refuses to do so"

ie: it's a big fairy story that only the cerebrally challenged brainwashed believe in.

if he wants to Smite me today then can I suggest around 2pm would be good, will be plenty of people around me to witness it, maybe he could even use his booming voice to tell me I have displeased him.

Next you'll be telling me that thunder is God getting angry at the gays for having a bit of manoman fun?

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