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For children born in an almost monocultural ghetto / area, faith schools are another block across the path into the wider country, community and integration.

As for offering citizenship in return for conversion to Christianity, that smells of ethnic cleansing rather than integration.


^ This.
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Different cultural backgrounds? That's the opposite of the problem. The rich mix of cultural backgrounds is precisely what gives all metropolitan communities their buzz and vitality.


Boo, down with this!

I long for the days when a stroll down a local high street would reveal only fish and chip shops and the occasional restaurant behind chintz curtains where you could get a roast beef dinner with boiled-to-death vegetables.
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JerryChicken wrote:
Boo, down with this!

I long for the days when a stroll down a local high street would reveal only fish and chip shops and the occasional restaurant behind chintz curtains where you could get a roast beef dinner with boiled-to-death vegetables.


The food that built an Empire, whilst others in far flung places were sat on the toilet after eating their fare.
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Dally wrote:
The food that built an Empire, whilst others in far flung places were sat on the toilet after eating their fare.



I bet you've got a portrait of Winston Churchill above the fireplace don't you ?
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... with boiled-to-death vegetables.


You think that most households can do better than this now – whether with a curry paste or without?
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You think that most households can do better than this now – whether with a curry paste or without?

TBF, he was referring to a little restaurant with chintz curtains.
I think you'd agree that restaurants now are way, way better since Brits have ventured abroad and furriners have come here.
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TBF, he was referring to a little restaurant with chintz curtains.
I think you'd agree that restaurants now are way, way better since Brits have ventured abroad and furriners have come here.


Oh aye.

Kebabs. And (as opened in Angel only a few days ago) 'curry burritos'.

There has been an improvement in some restaurant food in some places. The biggest improvement has arguably come at the high end – we really didn't have one previously – and has been massively influenced by the French; in particular, the Roux brothers and Raymond Blanc, who have, between them, influenced (and trained) a couple of generations of chefs now. That's been a huge sea change.

I remember my first steak, in a steak house in Lancaster, which was considered very good. It was tough and the only thing I remember was being utterly bemused as to why people raved about steak so much. It was a couple of decades until I tried again, and that was in an Argentinian steak house in Amsterdam.

On the other hand, we've lost most proper fish and chippies – and Wimpys, when they were cheap but decent.

For reasons of work mostly, I eat out regularly in a variety of towns and cities in the UK. And a lot of what I experience (usually when I'm not getting to choose the eatery) is vastly over-rated and frequently over priced for the quality; my experience of chain restaurants varies from seriously poor (provoking lengthy written complaints) to not bad. I think it's a shame that there aren't more places like the baker I passed in Glasgow a couple of years ago, where I bought a meat pie and ate it outside – and it was gorgeous.

The emergence of the gastro pub annoys some ('a pub should smell of ale, not cooking' was a complaint I heard recently) but has also produced some of the better eating experiences at a lower price range.

A rule of thumb for dining abroad is to look where locals go – and you can apply the same thing in the UK too. So for instance, few locals eat on Brick Lane, but there is one curry house just a tad off the beaten track where local people do eat. Similarly with Chinese restaurants – and many others, I'm sure.

Equally, it's worth noting that, while it may be possible to argue that there have been improvements in our restaurant scene, it's still come at a time when home cooking has declined further: dining table sales down, microwave sales up and, by 2005, the UK consuming more ready meals than the whole of the rest of Europe put together.
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A rule of thumb for dining abroad is to look where locals go – and you can apply the same thing in the UK too.


If I took that advice I'd spend my whole life eating in McDonalds.
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by 2005, the UK consuming more ready meals than the whole of the rest of Europe put together.


Just as well they are healthier than recipes from our top tv chefs.
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