Re: General Election campaign : Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:37 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Jewish protesters or any protesters do not compare to a prime minister trying to avoid something he is responsible for.

Or a wannabe PM doing the same. IMO Corbyn is more directly responsible for the anti Jewish venom in the Labour Party than Johnson is for one (too many) lad on a hospital floor

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:31 pm  

But Johnson is responsible for the NHS the expansion of food banks, increased poverty and the increase in racist attacks. Which party recently had to remove members for being both anti Semitic and Islamophobia.

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:05 pm  

I note as expected the right wing press completely ignore the NHS on their front page instead focussing on his threat to the funding of the BBC as instructed from central office or that Lord Sugar is backing Johnson. I have noticed he made a similar threat about Channel 4 when they replaced him with an ice carving. He is also suggesting that the Supreme Court should be political appointees like the US because they ruled against him. He must think he is still at Eton and he can bully those that disagree with him.
I saw that a former Conservative MP suggested it was the reporter’s fault because he kept asking him to look at the picture, that must have taken some working out. He is getting more like Trump by making stupid and incorrect statements and then getting others to face the public and back up his bafoonery.
With regards facing the public unlike Corbyn if he is advised that there are demonstrators he just does not appear.

Re: General Election campaign : Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:25 am  

Everything looking great before we embark on Brexit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50725715 Spending plans of both of the main parties look to be in peril if this continues.

Everything looking great before we embark on Brexit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50725715 Spending plans of both of the main parties look to be in peril if this continues.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:33 pm  

Squeaky bum time for some. Based solely on my personal experience, I'd say a reasonable Tory majority is likely, but it only takes a few twists to put Labour in based on a coalition of the left/remain.

I'm seeing a huge volume of anti-Labour language on local (mostly traditional Labour) community social media sites - even a massive Labour seat like Leigh is balanced on a knife edge, and in the last few days has swung to a predicted Tory win. But it depends where those ex-Labour votes go - split them between Tory and BP and Labour take it.

Plus you could stick a red rosette on a turd in some seats like Wigan and Labour would still win.

Thursday is going to be very interesting.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:41 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Squeaky bum time for some. Based solely on my personal experience, I'd say a reasonable Tory majority is likely, but it only takes a few twists to put Labour in based on a coalition of the left/remain.

I'm seeing a huge volume of anti-Labour language on local (mostly traditional Labour) community social media sites - even a massive Labour seat like Leigh is balanced on a knife edge, and in the last few days has swung to a predicted Tory win. But it depends where those ex-Labour votes go - split them between Tory and BP and Labour take it.

Plus you could stick a red rosette on a turd in some seats like Wigan and Labour would still win.

Thursday is going to be very interesting.

And you hit the nail on the head, people vote Labour because they always have, not because they understand what is at stake. There are many on here that just ignore Corbyn's past as a terrorist sympathiser, his anti UK stance, anti Military stance, Anti Semitism, but it's all about Boris not wanting to appear on the left wing BBC and being misrepresented constantly.

Re: General Election campaign : Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:07 pm  

Or ITV, Piers Morgan, Channel 4, The Public, Radio 2 and any unscripted interviews that could not be vetted by his aides. He won’t always be able to run into a freezer to avoid any questions.
I suppose if he wins and starts negotiating with the USA and China we will need to bring a fridge along should it get tough and he needs to hide away. I bet it was a trick he used when he was avoiding detection by any disgruntled mothers to his children, if he actually admit to their existence.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:44 am  

IR80 wrote:

And you hit the nail on the head, people vote Labour because they always have, not because they understand what is at stake. There are many on here that just ignore Corbyn's past as a terrorist sympathiser, his anti UK stance, anti Military stance, Anti Semitism, but it's all about Boris not wanting to appear on the left wing BBC and being misrepresented constantly.

Seriously, are you about five years old or what? Your grasp on actual issues and your casual questioning of people's patriotism is childlike.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:49 am  

I see you have dropped your reference to the KKK which just shows that despite your ignorance of the world outside your bedroom you can learn albeit after being shown to be a fool.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:11 am  

Cronus wrote:

I'm seeing a huge volume of anti-Labour language on local (mostly traditional Labour) community social media sites - even a massive Labour seat like Leigh is balanced on a knife edge

Genuine question. How many of those posts do you think are honest, genuine posts, and how many of them do you think are sock puppet accounts?

If there's one thing anyone should have learnt during this campaign, it's to be highly sceptical and questioning of what you read on social media. Tuesday's 'events' being prime examples. And don't say nobody falls for it. Some of the most prominent 'journalists' were propagating everything they could about the 'Leeds hospital punch', which turned out to be nothing of the sort. Peston even admitted he was fed the line by senior Tories in his apology. We'll not even go into the young lad on the hospital floor. It's amazing how so many former paediatric nurses emerged on social media that day, and all with exactly the same worded post.

Go on twitter now and see how many single mothers are voting Tory for the first time, then look at the date they joined twitter. I can guarantee they all joined in November 2019. Also, have a look at how many lifelong Labour voters are apparently scared of the security risk Corbyn poses, therefore they'll be voting Tory for the first time. It's playing on the weak, the vulnerable, the frightened, and the confused. See how it works?

You could argue that there are Labour/Green accounts of a similar ilk, and there are, but you could counter argue that they have far more gravitas, as they've had 9 actual years experience of coalition and Tory rule.

My retired Mum keeps asking me how she can join Facebook. If she can't work it out for herself, there's no way I'm feeding her to the lions! Within a week, she'd be buying magic beans, sending all her money to Prince Ngobu of Nigeria, and worse still, voting Tory.