Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:01 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Do you really think that the 17 year old who was armed and driven, to a peaceful protest was defending his property ??
Had someone nicked his skateboard

Haven't got a clue nor do I care tbh, that wasn't the point which was incidentally that Trump is not responsible for the gun laws made by individual states

wrencat1873 wrote:

As for the US Gun laws, Obama was trying to do something about them and was blocked at every turn.
Trump on the other hand has done all that he can to strengthen them, mind you, he is backed by the NRA.

I neither know nor care what the NRA are/is, Obama is a Democrat, Trump is a Republican so it's hardly surprising they will agree on much inside American politics, it's called vote catching I think.

wrencat1873 wrote:

As I said in a previous post, Trump is a very, very, dangerous individual and has done more to divide his country in 4 years than any of his predecessors have done in the last 100 years.

I'm sure every Democrat in America will agree with you that he is a dangerous individual, using your logic you could say that by doing that he's done a remarkable job.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:35 am  

little wayne69 wrote:

Haven't got a clue nor do I care tbh, that wasn't the point which was incidentally that Trump is not responsible for the gun laws made by individual states
I neither know nor care what the NRA are/is, Obama is a Democrat, Trump is a Republican so it's hardly surprising they will agree on much inside American politics, it's called vote catching I think.
I'm sure every Democrat in America will agree with you that he is a dangerous individual, using your logic you could say that by doing that he's done a remarkable job.

NRA - National Rifle Association, the body who drive the gun lobby in the USA and are backed by Trump.
With the strong relationship between them, there will never be any tightening of gun laws over there.

Not sure where Trump is doing a remarkable job - by any measure

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:44 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

NRA - National Rifle Association, the body who drive the gun lobby in the USA and are backed by Trump.
With the strong relationship between them, there will never be any tightening of gun laws over there.

Not sure where Trump is doing a remarkable job - by any measure

Well in this country there are multiple political parties where you don't have to actually win the election to be successful, whereas in America there are only two which means one winner only, that happens to be Trump for the time being, time will soon tell just how remarkable a job he's doing come the elections when the people go to the polls, one thing I do know is that whichever way it goes it won't be because he's Boris Johnston's mate, it will probably be because one of them will have promised the electorate the moon on a stick, not sure really why you and some of the Wakey fans have against Trump as their internal politics will have little or no consequence to you especially the gun laws which as far as I'm aware are brought in by individual states, otherwise wouldn't Obama have amended them, and also other than allegedly Johnston being Trumps lovechild.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:46 am  

little wayne69 wrote:

Well in this country there are multiple political parties where you don't have to actually win the election to be successful, whereas in America there are only two which means one winner only, that happens to be Trump for the time being, time will soon tell just how remarkable a job he's doing come the elections when the people go to the polls, one thing I do know is that whichever way it goes it won't be because he's Boris Johnston's mate, it will probably be because one of them will have promised the electorate the moon on a stick, not sure really why you and some of the Wakey fans have against Trump as their internal politics will have little or no consequence to you especially the gun laws which as far as I'm aware are brought in by individual states, otherwise wouldn't Obama have amended them, and also other than allegedly Johnston being Trumps lovechild.

I think that you are being naïve here.
As we are usually Americas "bitch" doing whatever "we" are told - The Iran war being a prime example, the President of the US most certainly does affect our lives.
Have you not seen the huge array of "American" fast food outlets and coffee shops over here, their influence is huge.
Also, as we have now taken a step back from being part of the EU, "we" will be desperate for a trade deal with them, bringing us closer still.
They (The USA) dont make our laws but, their influence will grow over the coming years.
As for being Bojos mate, this wont matter later next year as Bojo may not be "running" the country ?

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:55 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I think that you are being naïve here.
As we are usually Americas "bitch" doing whatever "we" are told - The Iran war being a prime example, the President of the US most certainly does affect our lives.

Naive, you can't even spell it properly and no I'm not a member of the grammar police I just find it laughable that your such a hypocrite, the Iran war is that the one where your super hero the Labour leader Blair the original America's super bitch lied to the country to justify his decision to get into bed with the Americans, I don't get involved with politics because I'm out of my depth, you chief would be out of your depth in a car park puddle

wrencat1873 wrote:

Have you not seen the huge array of "American" fast food outlets and coffee shops over here, their influence is huge.
Also, as we have now taken a step back from being part of the EU, "we" will be desperate for a trade deal with them, bringing us closer still.
They (The USA) dont make our laws but, their influence will grow over the coming years.

The only thing desperate on here is you matey, get a life chief why do you think these fast food outlets and coffee shops are thriving, do you think it's because they're American or could it be simply because the good old naive British public like them just as the rest of the world or aren't they as influenced as us , as for Brexit the British people voted for it, get over it, as for the rest of your anti American stance save it for your mates in the snug when the normal conversation dries up, just as an aside how influenced are you with these American food outlets and coffee shops.

wrencat1873 wrote:

As for being Bojos mate, this wont matter later next year as Bojo may not be "running" the country ?

Please don't confuse me with somebody that gives a toss, if it's not him it will be another nice person, it could even be an American according to you.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:10 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

:shock: Naive, you can't even spell it properly and no I'm not a member of the grammar police I just find it laughable that your such a hypocrite, the Iran war is that the one where your super hero the Labour leader Blair the original America's super bitch lied to the country to justify his decision to get into bed with the Americans, I don't get involved with politics because I'm out of my depth, you chief would be out of your depth in a car park puddle
The only thing desperate on here is you matey, get a life chief why do you think these fast food outlets and coffee shops are thriving, do you think it's because they're American or could it be simply because the good old naive British public like them just as the rest of the world or aren't they as influenced as us , as for Brexit the British people voted for it, get over it, as for the rest of your anti American stance save it for your mates in the snug when the normal conversation dries up, just as an aside how influenced are you with these American food outlets and coffee shops.
Please don't confuse me with somebody that gives a toss, if it's not him it will be another nice person, it could even be an American according to you.

Where am I being a hypocrite ??
I used the Iran war as an example of jut how much the UK has to dance to America's tune.
Do you actually believe that there would have been ANY involvement over there, without Bush calling the shots.
Yes, Blair (wrongly) went along with it but, that is the price you pay when "big brother" calls in a favour.

As for out of my depth

It's an open forum not the HoP

My politics are left of centre and I make no apology for that.
However, unlike some, I'm happy to criticise any party who get it wrong, Red, Blue, Orange, Green, whoever and I dont cover myself with "Please don't confuse me with somebody that gives a toss" to try and avoid having to put my opinion forward.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:36 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Where am I being a hypocrite ??
I used the Iran war as an example of jut how much the UK has to dance to America's tune.
Do you actually believe that there would have been ANY involvement over there, without Bush calling the shots.
Yes, Blair (wrongly) went along with it but, that is the price you pay when "big brother" calls in a favour.

As for out of my depth

It's an open forum not the HoP

My politics are left of centre and I make no apology for that.
However, unlike some, I'm happy to criticise any party who get it wrong, Red, Blue, Orange, Green, whoever and I dont cover myself with "Please don't confuse me with somebody that gives a toss" to try and avoid having to put my opinion forward.

So your problems with the Americans then, and if on that basis I believe what you say Bush is the problem and not your hero Blair who you happen to ignore criticising despite telling me your quite happy to criticise any party see what I did there I did what you did and put not one but three emojis for that special effect, oh and I really don't give a toss about your opinions honestly.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:58 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

So your problems with the Americans then, and if on that basis I believe what you say Bush is the problem and not your hero Blair who you happen to ignore criticising despite telling me your quite happy to criticise any party see what I did there I did what you did and put not one but three emojis for that special effect, oh and I really don't give a toss about your opinions honestly.

Well, I did put (wrongly), does that not count ?

Do you want me to compile a list and regurgitate my many criticisms of Corbyn ?
They're all on here somewhere, if you have time that is ?

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:29 pm  

Wrencat. There comes a time on Internet forums when you should just give in and stop posting to save yourself further embarrassment. This thread is a prime example. Had this been a boxing match it would have been stopped in the first round with Wayne declared the winner

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:23 am  

Steph Curry wrote:

Wrencat. There comes a time on Internet forums when you should just give in and stop posting to save yourself further embarrassment. This thread is a prime example. Had this been a boxing match it would have been stopped in the first round with Wayne declared the winner

Says a two bit troll