Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:32 pm  

The horrible George Osborne who is generally a horrible man who likes to attack the poor and most vulnerable in society has said today he wants an above inflation rise to the minimum wage.

Cost of Living Crisis Myth.....

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:19 pm  

Laudable ...
but small increases in a small amount of money is a very small amount of money.

Edit:
This is a proposed increase to seven pounds from six pounds thirty one pence.
That will be somewhere near the 11% pay rise the MPs are going to get.

So the MPs can claim low paid workers are getting the SAME pay rise.
lol

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:30 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

The horrible George Osborne who is generally a horrible man who likes to attack the poor and most vulnerable in society has said today he wants an above inflation rise to the minimum wage.

Cost of Living Crisis Myth.....

Just as I predicted before xmas, and just as I predicted before xmas in the same speech he also kicked a live shell in Vince Cables trench saying that he personally thought there should be an above inflation increase to the minimum wage but of course it wasn't up to the chancellor to suggest that, it was the business secretary who should push it through, he also slipped in a couple of references to "the great recession" and on one of those mentioned that it was Labours "great recession", he's lining up his soundbites early.

Just a little over twelve months from now they will all be clearing their desks ready for the rush back to the constituency's, Osbourne has twelve months to dangle some carrots, get his catchphrases correct, polish up the propaganda, expect a lot more of the same starting right now.

Personally I think they will convince enough people to get a second term on their own.

[DaveO]

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:19 am  

Ajw71 wrote:

The horrible George Osborne who is generally a horrible man who likes to attack the poor and most vulnerable in society has said today he wants an above inflation rise to the minimum wage.

Cost of Living Crisis Myth.....

It is such a myth Osborne has had to suggest he'd like to see a rise in the minimum wage. He is not setting the agenda he is reacting too it.

It is also not up to him anyway. The level is set by the low pay commission set up by Labour deliberately to remove the decision from politicians so they couldn't give it a nice rise just before a general election.

In other words however much it goes up by won't be down to what Osborne says he thinks it should be.

However much it goes up by this will be before, if re-elected, he cuts £12bn from the social secuity budget which will land on the same working poor who are paid the minimum wage as he has ring fenced just about everyone else in receipt of money from the social security budget from the cuts (such as pensioners).

Anyone who falls for this is thick.

Also of note is the day before Osborne came out with this he, his party and the Lib Dems voted against a Labour motion to ensure the enforcement of the minimum wage, restore its value and encourage (not force) employers to work towards the living wage. That was defeated by a majority of 70.

A government amendment, in the name of the Prime Minister, noted that the minimum wage has increased each year since 2010. It was approved by a majority of 70.

In other words one day there is no need to increase it to restore its value and the day after a 10% rise is in order.

Clearly, Osborne is a hypocrite.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:14 am  

DaveO wrote:

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It is also not up to him anyway. The level is set by the low pay commission set up by Labour deliberately to remove the decision from politicians so they couldn't give it a nice rise just before a general election.

Excellent, so the reason that people are earning below living wage and therefore struggling to make ends meet is down to the Labour party. That's up there with the abolition of the 10p tax rate. Vote Labour, screw the poor.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:45 am  

I think it's disgusting they want to put the lowest paid workers up to £11,000 per annum.
I've managed quite comfortably on last years £3,500 jobseekers allowance.
I mean, really, what will they spend all their extra on?

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:00 am  

Ajw71 wrote:

The horrible George Osborne who is generally a horrible man who likes to attack the poor and most vulnerable in society has said today he wants an above inflation rise to the minimum wage.

Cost of Living Crisis Myth.....

He's a man who changes his mind as often as the wind changes. Only last week he spoke out against rises.

Are there any elections coming up?

[DaveO]

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:54 am  

BobbyD wrote:

Excellent, so the reason that people are earning below living wage and therefore struggling to make ends meet is down to the Labour party. That's up there with the abolition of the 10p tax rate. Vote Labour, screw the poor.

You obviously have trouble with English. In particular just what the word "minimum" means. I'll give you a clue. The word minimum in this context means the least allowable wage. It doesn't set a limit or a maximum.

Hence your comment above is pretty moronic and not anywhere near as clever as you thought it was when you posted it.

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:18 am  

DaveO wrote:

You obviously have trouble with English. In particular just what the word "minimum" means. I'll give you a clue. The word minimum in this context means the least allowable wage. It doesn't set a limit or a maximum.

Hence your comment above is pretty moronic and not anywhere near as clever as you thought it was when you posted it.

That wasn't a clue, that was the actual definition. Not just me with the problem with English it seems.

Not another Labour voter who hopes people don't remember how he/she voted to screw the poor are you?

Stiil, keep bleating about the hypocrite Osborne.

[DaveO]

Re: No More Arguments: Austerity is Working! : Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:46 am  

BobbyD wrote:

That wasn't a clue, that was the actual definition. Not just me with the problem with English it seems.

Not another Labour voter who hopes people don't remember how he/she voted to screw the poor are you?

Stiil, keep bleating about the hypocrite Osborne.

I am surprise you still want to keep digging.

The point you made was and is moronic.

Setting a minimum wage does not impose a maximum on anyone. Setting up a commission to advise what that minimum level should be, to take it out of politicians hands, is not as you said "the reason that people are earning below living wage".

You thought you were being clever but were in fact being rather stupid.