Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 5:16 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

I would suggest you look back and we will see who is telling the truth - and we both know it isn't you

Now run along and get reading today's Politico playbook.

And everyone knows it isn’t you Mr “ 1.8 million flu jabs” liar

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 5:19 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

- or are you just forgetful when it suits you?

Your easy

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 5:25 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

The bloke has no idea about the differences between local and national government. He is pointing out police and hospital issues. Those decisions are not made at local level. The Tories have been in power for 11 years and presumably he's voted for them "for change"! The theory always trotted out is "Labour don't understand the working class". With blokes like him in the video is it any wonder? Do you understand him?

But you said "win back" implying they uses to vote Labour. So it's OK if numbskulls vote for your party of choice?

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 5:25 pm  

King Street Cat wrote: If these are the people Labour have to win back, good luck to them. https://mobile.twitter.com/resophonick/status/1391288617449005058 It’s a good job you can laugh

King Street Cat wrote: If these are the people Labour have to win back, good luck to them. https://mobile.twitter.com/resophonick/status/1391288617449005058 It’s a good job you can laugh

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 5:41 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

But you said "win back" implying they uses to vote Labour. So it's OK if numbskulls vote for your party of choice?

Labour need all the votes they can get at the moment. I'm guessing the guy has been a Labour voter all his life but now he can "think for himself" he votes Tory. The same Tories who have been in power for the last 11 years and are actually responsible for his grievances.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 6:13 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

Labour need all the votes they can get at the moment. I'm guessing the guy has been a Labour voter all his life but now he can "think for himself" he votes Tory. The same Tories who have been in power for the last 11 years and are actually responsible for his grievances.

You are deliberately missing my point. The guy will have been thick all his life but now it's a problem because he's voting "the wrong way"

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 6:51 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

You are deliberately missing my point. The guy will have been thick all his life but now it's a problem because he's voting "the wrong way"

I'd say it was a problem whoever he's voting for if he doesn't actually understand what he's voting for. It's only coming to light now because the Brexit vote has put these 'left-behind' areas in the spotlight.

I didn't vote Labour, myself, this time so your Labour/Tory line of questioning is misplaced.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 7:34 pm  

What did Labour expect putting a remainer from London who was ousted at the last election as their candidate in a seat that voted 70% leave?

I have never voted Tory, and I likely never will but Starmer and his team haven't got a clue. They need to pay more attention to what the the Labour councils in the North west and Greater Manchester in particular are doing, because they're actually increasing their share of the vote.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 8:51 pm  

Jack Burton wrote:

What did Labour expect putting a remainer from London who was ousted at the last election as their candidate in a seat that voted 70% leave?

A bit of a stretch to say the candidate was "from London" when they've lived in the north east for 30 years.

Anyway onto the next by election. I gifted my second preference to the Labour candidate for W Yorkshire mayor, the second time i've cast a vote for that party. They ultimately won triggering a by election in Batley and Spen. That I think would be closer to call than Hartlepool - Labour just won more votes there in the local elections and 17% of votes went for Lib Dems and Greens that they can potentially seek to squeeze.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sun May 09, 2021 9:28 pm  

It all depends who they select as their candidate, hopefully they let their local membership decide rather than parachute someone in.