Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Tue May 02, 2017 2:33 pm
wrencat1873 wrote:
The world will still go on turning, no doubt about it and we are not talking life and death here.
The issue surely is whether as a nation and as members of the public, will we be better off on the outside ?
I fully understand the need to control mass migration and without doubt there has to be a change.(although numbers may reduce from the EU, there seems a strong likelihood that they will increase from elsewhere in the world, particularly Asia).
Regarding the potential new, untapped markets.
Where are they and why the hell haven't we done anything about developing them already.
We shouldn't be losing or diminishing one market and replacing it with another, we should be getting the best for the UK across the board.
Almost 12 months on from the vote, ALL of the talk is about survival and not prosperity and of course our trade with Europe larger then with other countries, it's on the doorstep and there are no trade barriers.
You may be right about the possibility of The Germans setting up manufacturing plant over here but, there haven't been any noises along those lines yet.
We may prosper outside the EU but, we weren't exactly suffering within it ??
The UK has rolled the dice and gambled, when there was no need to jeopardise where we were.
Instead, we should have worked from within to improve those areas that we were not happy with and not throw our teddy out of the pram.
The issue surely is whether as a nation and as members of the public, will we be better off on the outside ?
I fully understand the need to control mass migration and without doubt there has to be a change.(although numbers may reduce from the EU, there seems a strong likelihood that they will increase from elsewhere in the world, particularly Asia).
Regarding the potential new, untapped markets.
Where are they and why the hell haven't we done anything about developing them already.
We shouldn't be losing or diminishing one market and replacing it with another, we should be getting the best for the UK across the board.
Almost 12 months on from the vote, ALL of the talk is about survival and not prosperity and of course our trade with Europe larger then with other countries, it's on the doorstep and there are no trade barriers.
You may be right about the possibility of The Germans setting up manufacturing plant over here but, there haven't been any noises along those lines yet.
We may prosper outside the EU but, we weren't exactly suffering within it ??
The UK has rolled the dice and gambled, when there was no need to jeopardise where we were.
Instead, we should have worked from within to improve those areas that we were not happy with and not throw our teddy out of the pram.
The EU is a massive corrupt organisation - when was the last time its accounts were signed off?
It is dominated by the Germans and the French and is run to benefit them principally. Only Thatcher had any influence in Europe no PM since has possibly because they are all looking for a cushy commissioner role and the easy rich life it brings.
Do you really want your laws being made by a group with no interest or understanding of the particular needs of your country? What is the point of the Government if all they are doing is rubber stamping EU law?
Why would the Germans need to say anything it will upset the talks and give the UK an edge if private companies declare they will set up in Britain if the deal is a good one. The EU/Junkers is already crying wolf because we wont do as we are told - I see no way of an agreement the sides are too far apart and both will lose too much face.
Finally there is the question of the financial cost of being a member - perhaps we can use some of billions we pay in to support our own workers rather than those in eastern Europe?
