Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:03 pm  

There are still Euros lovers on here? The Eurozone will break up shortly. The government is, according to the loony press (although they are usually correct on ths sort of thing), planning how to repatriate ca. 1 million brits (mainly retirees) from Spain and Portugal as they reckon Spanish banks will go bust.

Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:37 pm  

Dally wrote: There are still Euros lovers on here? The Eurozone will break up shortly. The government is, according to the loony press (although they are usually correct on ths sort of thing), planning how to repatriate ca. 1 million brits (mainly retirees) from Spain and Portugal as they reckon Spanish banks will go bust. Sarko seems to be going the other way with this little gem : http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... -london.do

Dally wrote: There are still Euros lovers on here? The Eurozone will break up shortly. The government is, according to the loony press (although they are usually correct on ths sort of thing), planning how to repatriate ca. 1 million brits (mainly retirees) from Spain and Portugal as they reckon Spanish banks will go bust. Sarko seems to be going the other way with this little gem : http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... -london.do

Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:58 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

You fail to point out that only 30% of potential voters voted and that a large porportion of that quantity were postal votes which had to be in before DC's Euro actions last week.

So claiming an overall swing of 8.5% from Tories to Labour is not a true reflection of the nation as a whole.

Not my words, but Radio 5 Live's Chief Political Commentator John Pienaar's.

You also fail to point out that despite the scaremongers on here, the majority of the UK public agree with Cameron.

I know it really really hurts you extreme left, Euro lovers on here. I know it hurts bad, but I'm sorry you are wrong.

It's time you moved on.

I just find it hilarious reading the thoughts of all you little englanders. Somebody in the pub actually buys the Daily Star and reading the text messages they receive and print is similar to reading the guff from all you right-wing eeejits on here

Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:07 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

So claiming an overall swing of 8.5% from Tories to Labour is not a true reflection of the nation as a whole.

You do realise that that is how statistics work don't you ?

You realise that the political press officers, the ones who decide which stories are to appear in the opinion sheets tomorrow, they are the ones who pick the statistics that suit their agendas and ignore the ones that don't ?

So losing a seat mid way through a term can easily be written off if only 30% of the electorate voted, and some of those were postal votes so theres another good excuse (what level does the percentage have to be before you can say with authority "Most of those were postal votes" ?), whilst all at the same time claiming a 6 point lead from another un-named source (you still haven't named it).

All of this bluster is of course to divert attention away from the grumblings of discontent at the no deal declared by Cameron and the fact that they lost a by election - you do understand how all this works don't you ?

Or do you just let Rupert Murdochs press formulate your opinions for you ?

Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:21 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

all you right-wing eeejits on here

We are winning.

You are losing.

Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:23 pm  

Mintball wrote:

Hoofer wrote:

Obviously the politicians are hopeless compared to the posters on this forum....

Thank goodness you have no political opinions and, therefore, never express any.

Presumably, you don't vote either?

I've voted in every election since 1979. As it's a secret ballot my choices remain so. No offence but you may be confusing a lack of political opinion with an opinion that I know all the answers, which I certainly do not. Unlike some other posters?

Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:36 pm  

Kosh wrote:

And as you well know I've worked for the last 30-odd years in a major industry where the opposite applies and where companies have set up shop in the UK specifically because of the single market. Make no mistake about it - dropping out of the single market would do enormous harm to the UK economy. Assuming that the single market survives the current crisis of course...

Indeed - and I agree the single market is vital. It's a shame we Europeans couldn't just stop there though.

Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:12 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

I just find it hilarious reading the thoughts of all you little englanders. Somebody in the pub actually buys the Daily Star and reading the text messages they receive and print is similar to reading the guff from all you right-wing eeejits on here

Oh right, so Euro sceptics and people on the right of the political divide are all xenophobic, illiterate morons? Why didn't you say so earlier, all the time we've wasted NOT worshipping at your feet.

Silly us eh?

Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:18 pm  

Hoofer wrote:

I've voted in every election since 1979. As it's a secret ballot my choices remain so. No offence but you may be confusing a lack of political opinion with an opinion that I know all the answers, which I certainly do not. Unlike some other posters?

So you hold opinions without believing they're right? How odd.

But I've yet to see anyone on here who claims to "know all the answers" - perhaps you can point out who does and on what you base such a claim? That would mean showing evidence that they think that they "know ALL the answers", as you suggest.

Re: What now for the UK? : Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:22 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

I just find it hilarious reading the thoughts of all you little englanders.

So little, there is no capital E!

Anyway, why is someone opposed to Britain joining the Euro a 'little Englander?' Surely, they are rationale people? Why is it somehow superior to succumb to the undemocratic act of faith that is the Euro project?