Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 07, 2021 4:03 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

A lot appear to have voted based on the positivity they feel now with the vaccination rollout and the release of restrictions. They forget what came before it or the fact that the Conservatives have been in power for 11 years.
I actually think some do not believe Johnson’s Conservatives are the same Conservative party that proceeded him as leader.

Right now, there is very little that Labour can do to make ground on the Tories (or even hold the ground that they had).
There is eye watering spending going on and the vaccine appears to be successful, plus the promise of "levelling up".

I dont think that anyone can argue that the UK appears to be doing well with regards to covid and the spending / levelling up wont be an issue until someone decides that it's time to pay down the debt.
It is then, where the true colours will be seen.
Just who will take the biggest hit to their income or have to pay higher taxes and of course, then we have the "levelling up".
This was a clever line from Boris, giving the appearance of a brighter future but giving nothing whatsoever to make it happen.
Meanwhile, the UK's debt is growing at a faaster rate than the ice cap is melting.

Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 07, 2021 4:24 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I don't think that anyone can argue that the UK appears to be doing well with regards to covid

We're doing well with vaccine rollout. Our covid record overall though is abysmal, amongst the worst in developed nations.

Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 07, 2021 4:47 pm  

The return of Inflation will be the catalyst for change.

Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 07, 2021 5:38 pm  

Willzay wrote:

No he doesn’t and no they don’t.

Yes he does and yes they do

Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 07, 2021 5:39 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Let’s also not forget the fact that Boris first and foremost is a homophobic racist. People keep voting for a party led by a “man” like that, and they say the UK isn’t institutionally racist.

We are one of the most tolerant nations on the Planet

Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 07, 2021 7:47 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

We are one of the most gullible nations on the Planet

Couldn't resist.

Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 07, 2021 11:14 pm  

Well ovavoo and King Street laughing emojis don't mean it ain't so. Yes there are racists in our country as in all nations. Doesn't mean the vast majority of the UK aren't tolerant and welcoming.

Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 07, 2021 11:15 pm  

Ovavoo wrote:

Couldn't resist.

Of course you couldn't

Re: Kier Starmer : Fri May 07, 2021 11:35 pm  

The one thing that is clear from the results is that the incumbent party have fared better in each country. It could be said that in Wales the Conservatives have made little impact. It is clear that each has benefited from the vaccination bounce. I guess the question is how long will it last for every incumbent.

Re: Kier Starmer : Sat May 08, 2021 7:44 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

What do you think I’m in denial about?

Are you suggesting that Johnson is better than that and offers genuine hope for a better future?

I am no Johnson fan but compared to Starmer yes he does. No difficult to offer more than nothing?