Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:59 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Since Sanders' support level is about 30% then nobody is denying him anything other than the majority of voters. His strategy was always to win in a heavily splintered field. That has cleared now and he consequently has no chance.

Not so much about vote % 99, but more about winning primaries and caucuses in states with differing backgrounds where all candidates have differing levels of support.

To win a candidate ultimately needs endorsements from lapsed candidates, and their associated “block vote”.

Also you need to remember that Bernie is an Independent Senator, not part of the Establishment Democrat Party.

Once Bernie got winning, the Democrats Establishment came together, just as they did with Hillary, and backed “.their man”

So now that Joe Biden has the Delegates to be Democratic candidate nomination for President, assuming Bloomberg doesn’t buy it at a brokered convention, the massive question is who does he choose for running mate?

He already said he will choose a woman, the right choice could get him the Whitehouse.

Kamala Harris, Val Demings, Elizabeth Warren , are mentioned, or maybe someone from left field.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:16 am  

Superblue wrote:

Did I mention voting?

The question is still standing

Answer once again, I didn’t vote for the Conservative party, I don’t support the Conservative party, have no links with the Conservative party. Chiefly because the dying embers of the Conservative party was cheerfully Extinguished by David Cameron. I gave up on the so called politicians of this country year’s ago, having witnessed the Iraq war which has distablised the Middle East. One of the results which was the elimination of centuries of Christianity. Not content with that we attacked Libya, that country is now in turmoil. Most of the problems in the Middle East stems from these two outrageous acts of war. Finally the most disgraceful act of modern day politicians was the encouragement of mass immigration. The encouragement of multiculturalism has divided and split this country. The British population was never asked about or consulted about this disastrous social experiment. So that’s the Main reason I am unable to vote for Any of today’s lack lustre and woefully pig ignorant so called politicians. Let’s also not forget the laying waste to the north of England by the north London metropolitan elite. They politicians just to confirm how stupid they are ,were shocked at the working man voting for Brexit. It never occurred to them that if you ignore or treat vast swathes of the working population with distain or contempt ,there will be payback time.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:16 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Because for the most, pay has been based on experience, public profile, ability to draw and retain an audience, etc. Or do you suggest David Attenborough should be paid the same as Liz Bonnin? Go and find me a job listing that specifies £x for males, £x for females. You can't. Many multivariate analyses of the gender pay gap have demonstrated that when you take ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING into account, women are not generally paid less than men, or any difference is minimal.

Anyway, it's a false equivalence to the question of race. Answer me - what do BLM actually want to change here in the UK? There's a load of bluster about dismantling the police, imperialism, capitalism, white-supremacy, patriarchy and 'racist' state structures. But let's get real and think about what they actually want? More quotas? Jobs handed over? Big houses handed over? Cheaper car insurance?

Your first paragraph here including "find me a job listing that specifies £x for males, £x for females", you know, as well as I do, that this description would be illegal - next up, you'll be asking me to find you a left handed screwdriver or a "long stand".
Are you seriously suggesting that equal pay is actually equal, accross all sectors and that female employees are not exploited ?? - I'll accept that things are massively better now than they were 50 years ago but...…………
And it's largely the same for BAME (I hate the acronym) employees, although it can be difficult also for "white" people looking for work in the opposite direction.

I've no idea what this was about: "More quotas? Jobs handed over? Big houses handed over? Cheaper car insurance?" maybe you can explain ?

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:17 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Answer once again, I didn’t vote for the Conservative party, I don’t support the Conservative party, have no links with the Conservative party. Chiefly because the dying embers of the Conservative party was cheerfully Extinguished by David Cameron. I gave up on the so called politicians of this country year’s ago, having witnessed the Iraq war which has distablised the Middle East. One of the results which was the elimination of centuries of Christianity. Not content with that we attacked Libya, that country is now in turmoil. Most of the problems in the Middle East stems from these two outrageous acts of war. Finally the most disgraceful act of modern day politicians was the encouragement of mass immigration. The encouragement of multiculturalism has divided and split this country. The British population was never asked about or consulted about this disastrous social experiment. So that’s the Main reason I am unable to vote for Any of today’s lack lustre and woefully pig ignorant so called politicians. Let’s also not forget the laying waste to the north of England by the north London metropolitan elite. They politicians just to confirm how stupid they are ,were shocked at the working man voting for Brexit. It never occurred to them that if you ignore or treat vast swathes of the working population with distain or contempt ,there will be payback time.

Wow, I didn't think such xenophobic racist fairy story "Christians" still existed, Alf Garnet is a moderate compared to you. Embarassed to share a planet with you.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:46 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Wow, I didn't think such xenophobic racist fairy story "Christians" still existed, Alf Garnet is a moderate compared to you. Embarassed to share a planet with you.

You may want to checkout the history of Christians living peacefully in Iraq, after the war they have been Killed and driven out of Iraq by the various factions that emerged from the aftermath of that debacle. Not certain why you should consider pointing out a passage of history to be xenophobic.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:59 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote:

You may want to checkout the history of Christians living peacefully in Iraq, after the war they have been Killed and driven out of Iraq by the various factions that emerged from the aftermath of that debacle. Not certain why you should consider pointing out a passage of history to be xenophobic.

Are you REALLY equating Christianity and peace?

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:13 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Your first paragraph here including "find me a job listing that specifies £x for males, £x for females", you know, as well as I do, that this description would be illegal - next up, you'll be asking me to find you a left handed screwdriver or a "long stand".
Are you seriously suggesting that equal pay is actually equal, accross all sectors and that female employees are not exploited ?? - I'll accept that things are massively better now than they were 50 years ago but...…………
And it's largely the same for BAME (I hate the acronym) employees, although it can be difficult also for "white" people looking for work in the opposite direction.

I've no idea what this was about: "More quotas? Jobs handed over? Big houses handed over? Cheaper car insurance?" maybe you can explain ?

I think it's a very simple question. Read it again.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:19 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Are you REALLY equating Christianity and peace?

Try reading 7 pillars of wisdom by T. E. Lawrence, yes that’s right Lawrence of Arabia. When the Iraq conflict was underway a British army officer gave this book to his American counterpart. He was astounded as to the contents of this book. As for equating Christianity and peace, I merely pointed out the carnage in Iraq brought about by us. Read what you want into that. I am certain you are familiar with the law of cause and affect. The ripples from the Libyan war have ended up on the shores of Europe through the passage of migrants through Libya. You may want to look back at Britain’s involvement in Iran, overthrowing governments for instance. If you can take some of that onboard you may get some insight as to the devastation we have caused in the Middle East. I am as proud as anybody as to being British, but regretfully our foreign policy in the Middle East has been deeply shameful and disruptive.

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:35 am  

Backwoodsman wrote: Try reading 7 pillars of wisdom by T. E. Lawrence, yes that’s right Lawrence of Arabia. When the Iraq conflict was underway a British army officer gave this book to his American counterpart. He was astounded as to the contents of this book. As for equating Christianity and peace, I merely pointed out the carnage in Iraq brought about by us. Read what you want into that. I am certain you are familiar with the law of cause and affect. The ripples from the Libyan war have ended up on the shores of Europe through the passage of migrants through Libya. You may want to look back at Britain’s involvement in Iran, overthrowing governments for instance. If you can take some of that onboard you may get some insight as to the devastation we have caused in the Middle East. I am as proud as anybody as to being British, but regretfully our foreign policy in the Middle East has been deeply shameful and disruptive. You have a very selective way of reading/understanding literature, LoA is widely regarded as a very racist colonial work, for you to then make a comment about mass immigration being wrong suggests you believe that everyone should worship the sky pixie and believe all Middle Easterns are actually the infidels? Way off topic, sad to know that people still believe the myths and legends of religion are some route to a kind of salvation. RACIAL, TRIBAL AND ETHNIC CONFLICT IN THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY Even the SA agrees that 'Christianity' is inherently racist and the preserve of those who can 'afford' to "move on".

Backwoodsman wrote: Try reading 7 pillars of wisdom by T. E. Lawrence, yes that’s right Lawrence of Arabia. When the Iraq conflict was underway a British army officer gave this book to his American counterpart. He was astounded as to the contents of this book. As for equating Christianity and peace, I merely pointed out the carnage in Iraq brought about by us. Read what you want into that. I am certain you are familiar with the law of cause and affect. The ripples from the Libyan war have ended up on the shores of Europe through the passage of migrants through Libya. You may want to look back at Britain’s involvement in Iran, overthrowing governments for instance. If you can take some of that onboard you may get some insight as to the devastation we have caused in the Middle East. I am as proud as anybody as to being British, but regretfully our foreign policy in the Middle East has been deeply shameful and disruptive. You have a very selective way of reading/understanding literature, LoA is widely regarded as a very racist colonial work, for you to then make a comment about mass immigration being wrong suggests you believe that everyone should worship the sky pixie and believe all Middle Easterns are actually the infidels? Way off topic, sad to know that people still believe the myths and legends of religion are some route to a kind of salvation. RACIAL, TRIBAL AND ETHNIC CONFLICT IN THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY Even the SA agrees that 'Christianity' is inherently racist and the preserve of those who can 'afford' to "move on".

Re: US Presidential election 2020 : Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:14 pm  

Cronus wrote:

I think it's a very simple question. Read it again.

I can only assume that you are paraphrasing, for effect ?