Re: Another retail casualty : Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:56 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

The Mayor of London wouldn't be investing in Sheffield or Nottingham now would he?

Instead of whinging that everything was happening in the South moan to your council and get them to attract investment to your own area.

There isn't any money for the local authorities, it's been spent in the south!

Re: Another retail casualty : Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:07 pm  

Standee wrote:

There isn't any money for the local authorities, it's been spent in the south!

Hogwash. Firstly that money Boris is investing was announced last year and I would guess would be from a contingency fund for events like this (funds that ALL councils have) along with moneys from HM Gov and insurance claims.

You don't see people in the South moaning when Sheffield got millions to improve or when the whole of the Arndale in Manchester was rebuilt.

Re: Another retail casualty : Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:11 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

You don't see people in the South moaning when Sheffield got millions to improve or when the whole of the Arndale in Manchester was rebuilt.

Maybe not on RLFans, but plenty were at the time.

Re: Another retail casualty : Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:29 pm  

Standee wrote: There isn't any money for the local authorities, it's been spent in the south! Thats odd, because I'm sure that there is a bloody big arena sprouting up on the skyline in Leeds at the moment that is part-funded from public money. We'll also have a £350m retail complex open up in the city centre later this year and work is likely start on expanding the White Rose Centre

Standee wrote: There isn't any money for the local authorities, it's been spent in the south! Thats odd, because I'm sure that there is a bloody big arena sprouting up on the skyline in Leeds at the moment that is part-funded from public money. We'll also have a £350m retail complex open up in the city centre later this year and work is likely start on expanding the White Rose Centre

[Durham Giant]

Re: Another retail casualty : Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:56 pm  

cod'ead wrote: SNIP I boast that "If I wouldn't eat it, you won't find it on my van". I wouldn't carry any cod during December because I wasn't happy with the quality. I refuse to ever carry pangasius at all. If you're wondering what pangasius is, you may find it listed as "cobbler" or "Basa". In reality, pangasius is Vietnamese river catfish ad a dirtier fish would be difficult to find on sale, yet the supermarkets are quite happy to stock it. Please don't tell me, that was through customer demand. I rarely buy any fish or meat from a supermarket because the "fishmongers" and "butchers" employed by them are anything but. Try asking a supermarket butcher for a bone-in shoulder of pork, you won't get it, simply because "head office don't supply it". Now try and find a proper butcher who can supply a joint from a traditional breed like Gloucester Old Spot and follow and I gurantee you really will "taste the difference". I have to agree with coddy. Proper fish and proper meat is so far superior that given the choice i would always get the better quality. The issue that some raise about price is true BUT i would say that you get more taste and satisfaction from a smaller portion that the price works out the same. Buying cheaper cuts and eating a lot of it is neither good value or a good tasting experience. The other advantage of eating the better quality stuff as that you are not eating too much and is a good way of portion control. Quality over quantity He is also right about BASSA fillets. Tasteless and full of pollution DO NOT EVER BUY THIS FISH

cod'ead wrote: SNIP I boast that "If I wouldn't eat it, you won't find it on my van". I wouldn't carry any cod during December because I wasn't happy with the quality. I refuse to ever carry pangasius at all. If you're wondering what pangasius is, you may find it listed as "cobbler" or "Basa". In reality, pangasius is Vietnamese river catfish ad a dirtier fish would be difficult to find on sale, yet the supermarkets are quite happy to stock it. Please don't tell me, that was through customer demand. I rarely buy any fish or meat from a supermarket because the "fishmongers" and "butchers" employed by them are anything but. Try asking a supermarket butcher for a bone-in shoulder of pork, you won't get it, simply because "head office don't supply it". Now try and find a proper butcher who can supply a joint from a traditional breed like Gloucester Old Spot and follow and I gurantee you really will "taste the difference". I have to agree with coddy. Proper fish and proper meat is so far superior that given the choice i would always get the better quality. The issue that some raise about price is true BUT i would say that you get more taste and satisfaction from a smaller portion that the price works out the same. Buying cheaper cuts and eating a lot of it is neither good value or a good tasting experience. The other advantage of eating the better quality stuff as that you are not eating too much and is a good way of portion control. Quality over quantity He is also right about BASSA fillets. Tasteless and full of pollution DO NOT EVER BUY THIS FISH

Re: Another retail casualty : Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:21 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

I have to agree with coddy.
Buying cheaper cuts and eating a lot of it is neither good value or a good tasting experience.

I assume you mean cheaper / lower quality meat? Cheaper cuts as used for slow cooking are good value and by the very nature of the cooking process are good tasting. This of course assumes the meat has been produced and hung correctly.

Re: Another retail casualty : Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:27 pm  

peggy wrote:

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I assume you mean cheaper / lower quality meat? Cheaper cuts as used for slow cooking are good value and by the very nature of the cooking process are good tasting. This of course assumes the meat has been produced and hung correctly.

Indeed, I remember a famous lisping chef extolling the virtues of bone in shoulder of Pork, which f'd up the availability of my favourite sunday roast for months!

[Durham Giant]

Re: Another retail casualty : Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:15 pm  

peggy wrote:

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I assume you mean cheaper / lower quality meat? Cheaper cuts as used for slow cooking are good value and by the very nature of the cooking process are good tasting. This of course assumes the meat has been produced and hung correctly.

Yes you are right to make that point.

Oxtail is a very cheap cut but possibly one of the tastiest

Re: Another retail casualty : Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:00 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

Yes you are right to make that point.

Oxtail is a very cheap cut but possibly one of the tastiest

Don't dismiss lamb breast either.

Morrison's sell a small 1/2 sheet for about £1.25, My local butcher sells whole breasts for 75p each. Either bone them, then roll & stuff 'em or simply season and place the racks in a hot oven and eat like you would pork ribs

Re: Another retail casualty : Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:55 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

He is also right about BASSA fillets. Tasteless and full of pollution DO NOT EVER BUY THIS FISH

I saw a documentary a few months ago on this fish (or something very similar), where the reporter visited the farm in Vietnam and found some of the fish had been deliberately mutilated (think it was one eye removed..IIRC??) as it enhanced the virility in the male allowing them to increase their stocks.

Looked rank to be honest!