Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:22 pm  

Lord Elpers wrote:

This is not a failure of free market capitalism. It is the knock on effect of the slow down world trade led by China that has caused a collapse in global steel prices which are kept down by state intervention mainly in Communist China. Furthermore what has been the final straw is the higher costs of electricity incurred by UK companies because of the nonsense green policies of successive governments which has seen a much higher cost of UK electricity due to climate change policies.

So it is not a level playing field.

You should be happy, Greed is still winning!

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:40 am  

Leaguefan wrote:

You should be happy, Greed is still winning!

why don't you invest your considerable personal wealth and give all these poor mites jobs making something for above the cost that people are willing to buy it for...

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:59 pm  

HullFC_1865 wrote:
Maybe the workers at Redcar could have accepted a wage reduction, short weeks etc. They have simply priced the business out of production via wage and other demands, surely?


yeh right, which directors/owners/shareholders were prepared to take a cut?.

Why is it the right wing say improve your lot in life and income, but when others do they whinge and whine?

Why are bad business decisions and management the fault of the "workers"?

Whatever happens someone will make a killing from this closure, but I'll bet it wont be any of the "workers" who actually created the wealth of the business.

Why are you so bitter about some being wealthy?? Its always going to be that way. I couldn't careless if the manager is earning millions if he provides thousands of others with jobs. Thats the way of the world. Become the manager

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:37 am  

Leaguefan wrote:

You should be happy, Greed is still winning!

That's pretty lame even for you

The fact UK workers are losing jobs because of actions of another regime - the policies of which you aspire to is pretty ironic really

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:13 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

You should be happy, Greed is still winning!

In your green world you equate greed with capitalism because for you it is a lazy way to try and justify your leftie views. You make an unproven statement and then keep referring to it as if it is true and then use it as a base for your other odd comments. You are unable to form an argument and keep posting one line negatives with graphics instead of words.

It you were not so one eyed you would see clearly that greed is a human failing which affects all of humanity to some degree. Greed of course can be found in people from all political persuasions left and right and in both business and state run public institutions. Of course greed will be found in Capitalism but it was/is never more rampant than the corrupt and bankrupt communist block of old or the socialist run disasters like Venezuela.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:20 pm  

Lord Elpers wrote:

In your green world you equate greed with capitalism because for you it is a lazy way to try and justify your leftie views. You make an unproven statement and then keep referring to it as if it is true and then use it as a base for your other odd comments. You are unable to form an argument and keep posting one line negatives with graphics instead of words.

It you were not so one eyed you would see clearly that greed is a human failing which affects all of humanity to some degree. Greed of course can be found in people from all political persuasions left and right and in both business and state run public institutions. Of course greed will be found in Capitalism but it was/is never more rampant than the corrupt and bankrupt communist block of old or the socialist run disasters like Venezuela.

don't be silly (and wire-quin, I think your quote mixed me up with Leaguefan, which is a situation I'd never find comfort in)

Some people create opportunity for the less fortunate, and I will go as far to say, intelligent, to exploit.

Does Leagugefan have a problem with Honda, Audi, BMW, Tetleys, no, Leaguefan is a symptom of the demise of UK endeavour "I want to work, but I want big money and for someone else to pay me for it, whilst I actually sit on my backside and do nothing"

If you don't like it, DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:33 pm  

HullFC_1865 wrote:

If you don't like it, DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT.

I do, but then there are people who post on forums who are struggling with thinking. It's a slow process but even then worth it.

Too many posters are comfortable with their " lot", fine, but cannot grasp that perhaps they are not as open minded as they portray themselves.

There is a reason for that as well, but I will let those who can work it out for themselves, if they can be bothered.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:22 pm  

HullFC_1865 wrote:

If you don't like it, DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT.

Like work together with others to try and improve their working lives?

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:59 am  

Him wrote:

Like work together with others to try and improve their working lives?

Or take the bull by the horns and rely on themselves to make a difference for themselves and possibly some others?

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:00 am  

Him wrote:

Like work together with others to try and improve their working lives?

not my responsibility, I am firmly a greedy capitalist, if others cannot be bothered to get off their backsides and achieve then that is up to them.