Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:17 pm  

Labour is similar to any other commodity in that it's value is determined by the supply & demand for it. If skilled labour (in any sector) is hard to come by then chances are their value will increase. However, skilled labour probably represents a minority of jobs in the economy.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:20 pm  

I've spent most of the last ten years working principally in engineering (Mining, Oil/gas, Construction, Industrial) and again the market drives price.

I worked on a huge industrial progamme in North Africa where workers were offered higher level HSE training. One of the company bosses said train equally across companies or you will create an imbalance in the market and as such introduce movement and then local inflation

So that's 4 more markets. Rather than me keep going on, maybe you could provide examples. I'm unsure what is representative.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:01 am  

Well. Astonishing article from the Mail. Quite wonderful: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... ttlee.html

Well. Astonishing article from the Mail. Quite wonderful: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... ttlee.html

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:13 am  

He has lasted 4 days which is more than some thought!

I suspect if he doesn't raise his game he will be gone by Xmas

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:47 am  

Exiled down south wrote:

He has lasted 4 days which is more than some thought!

I suspect if he doesn't raise his game he will be gone by Xmas

What have you seen in those 4 days to suggest that?

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:08 am  

Exiled down south wrote:

He has lasted 4 days which is more than some thought!

I suspect if he doesn't raise his game he will be gone by Xmas

Raise his game? What do you want him to do?

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:22 pm  

It is widely reported that the owner of Hull City FC is withdrawing his significant donations to the Labour Party and encouraging "moderate MPs" to form a break-away party or join the LibDems. The whole thing has become a farce.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:20 am  

Dally wrote:

It is widely reported that the owner of Hull City FC is withdrawing his significant donations to the Labour Party and encouraging "moderate MPs" to form a break-away party or join the LibDems. The whole thing has become a farce.

Assem Allam would make Brian Rix green with envy in his ability to turn absolutely any event into a farce.

His statement and that of other Blairite sympathisers proves just what value they place on democracy

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:59 am  

cod'ead wrote:

His statement and that of other Blairite sympathisers proves just what value they place on democracy

Yes, because now he's been elected everyone should agree with everything he says or does. That's the problem with democracy, people can openly have opinions and beliefs, much like your belief that the NHS should be flogged off to the private sector.

Re: The Labour party leadership thread : Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:02 pm  

BobbyD wrote:

Yes, because now he's been elected everyone should agree with everything he says or does. That's the problem with democracy, people can openly have opinions and beliefs, much like your belief that the NHS should be flogged off to the private sector.

Don't be so obtuse.

Allam can disagree all he wants to but to outwardly foment rebellion is not democracy, it is buying patronage.

Something he has vast experience of