Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:36 pm  

That debate thingy on Sunday morning BBC with Nicky Campbell was funny yesterday. There was a devout christian nutter, an equally devout muslim barmpot and an orthodox jew all attempting to explain why their version of (presumably the same) heaven, was the only one that was valid.

The jew was the least phlegmatic, the muslim moderately so but the christian was insisting that the only way in to heaven was to convert to christianity and repent their sins. He did offer to pray for those that refused though, so that's everyone covered now then.

Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:39 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

There was a general concensus among them that gayness was like an illness that could be cured through prayer. I wonder if the clergy could be cured of their kiddy-fiddling in the same way?

Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:46 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

The Westboro people trade on their extreme opinions to the extent that suing people that retaliate against them is their primary source of income. The kind of people at parties Dally gets invited to think they're in the majority and PC is the only thing preventing anyone else from agreeing with them.

Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:53 pm  

Interesting tweet yesterday from a catholic who was going to be read the latest pastoral letter and decided not to go to church to hear the prejudice. The tweet ended with

"Jesus said love another not discriminate against one another". Many "Christians" seem to have forgotten that, not just in this area.

Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:12 pm  

vbfg wrote:

The Westboro people trade on their extreme opinions to the extent that suing people that retaliate against them is their primary source of income. The kind of people at parties Dally gets invited to think they're in the majority and PC is the only thing preventing anyone else from agreeing with them.

I had a similar conversation with my mother - also a Daily Mail reader - the other night. The discussion had turned to gay adoption and she seemed to think that the principle of homosexual couples being allowed to adopt was fine, but that no one could really be in favour of such a thing in practice.

Her: So, are you telling me that if you and your wife died, you'd be happy with a gay couple adopting your son?

Me (Ignoring the fact that if I was dead I wouldn't know one way or the other): Absolutely.

Her: No you wouldn't.

Me: Yes. I would.

Her: Well, I don't believe you.

Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:16 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

Her: No you wouldn't.

Me: Yes. I would.

Her: Well, I don't believe you.

Now that could've been the script from yesterday's Nicky Campbell show

Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:21 pm  

Gay marriage was originally a catholic idea

Gay marriage was originally a catholic idea

Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:03 pm  

Marriage should be between a man and a woman. What is offensive or homophobic about that?

Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:18 pm  

wigan_rlfc wrote:

Marriage should be between a man and a woman. What is offensive or homophobic about that?

Denying one group of people rights that are afforded to another group of people, solely because their sexual orientations differ, is wrong.

Re: Is John Sentamu totally bonkers? : Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:19 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

Denying one group of people rights that are afforded to another group of people, solely because their sexual orientations differ, is wrong.

Marriage is available to everyone over 16.